I'd agree with both interpretations - the majority of people in Wikidata
are implicitly famous, and so a property saying so wouldn't make sense, but
there are (as Finn notes) a lot of nom-famous people created for structural
reasons.
Using the existence of Wikipedia articles as a threshold, as suggested,
seems a pretty good test - it's flawed, of course, but it's easy to check
for and works as a first approximation of "probably is actually famous".
Andrew.
On 2 Aug 2016 17:34, "Finn Aarup Nielsen" <f...@imm.dtu.dk> wrote:
>
>
> On 08/02/2016 03:01 PM, Markus Kroetzsch wrote:
>
>> On 02.08.2016 13:11, Ghislain ATEMEZING wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Yuri. I will try to define a kind a metric for those having a
>>> number of wikipedia entries. For example, a person with 127 entries
>>> would be "famous" while another with just 10 is not "famous"...
>>>
>>
>> Side remark @Stas: it could be very helpful to have the number of
>> Wikimedia project articles stored as a numeric value for a new property
>> in RDF. Doing a SPARQL query that computes this number and does
>> something with it afterwards almost always times out. The number could
>> be very useful as a heuristic "popularity" measure that can also help to
>> give the most "important" items first in a number of queries.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>
> The kind of queries alluded to (I think) are ones like:
>
> # Famous Danes
> SELECT ?person ?personLabel (count(?articles) as ?rank) WHERE {
> ?person wdt:P27 wd:Q35 .
> OPTIONAL {?articles schema:about ?person}
> SERVICE wikibase:label {bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" }
> }
> GROUP BY ?person ?personLabel
> ORDER BY DESC(?rank)
> LIMIT 50
>
> Which is derived from the Repository Fringe Wikitalks by Navino Evans and
> Ewan McAndrew
>
> This one with property counts times out if not restricted to females:
>
> # Famous Danish females
> SELECT ?person ?personLabel (count(?properties) as ?rank) WHERE {
> ?person wdt:P27 wd:Q35 .
> ?person wdt:P21 wd:Q6581072 .
> ?person ?properties ?something
> SERVICE wikibase:label {bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" }
> }
> GROUP BY ?person ?personLabel
> ORDER BY DESC(?rank)
> LIMIT 50
>
>
>
> Persons in Wikidata may not necessarily be famous. Persons may be in
> Wikidata because of structural needs.
>
>
> /Finn
>
>
>
>>>
>>> El mar., 2 ago. 2016 a las 12:52, Yuri Astrakhan
>>> (<yastrak...@wikimedia.org <mailto:yastrak...@wikimedia.org>>) escribió:
>>>
>>> Any person in wikidata is "famous" - otherwise they wouldn't be
>>> notable and therefore wouldn't be there))
>>> If you prefer the stricter notability requirement(as used by
>>> Wikipedia), search only for those that have a wikipedia page
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 2, 2016 1:44 PM, "Ghislain ATEMEZING"
>>> <ghislain.atemez...@gmail.com <mailto:ghislain.atemez...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ahoy,
>>> I am curious to know if there is a way to know that a given
>>> person is "famous" in Wikidata. I want for example to retrieve
>>> "all famous French people born after a given date".
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ghislain
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