I never loved authority principle, nor I do in this context. I didn't reply because I find this thread has turned into rant too many emails ago, while this list cannot produce consensus for any project.
But well, here's my reply: Wikidata has an active community, which has a series of means to rollback sysops' actions. If no one has yet rolled those deletions back we, stewards, won't *overrule the community*. Sorry for going against *one of the most influential wikimedians' *writ, but a series of mildly controversial deletions -the controversy wouldn't be "mild" if it would bring to a wheel-war- is so so far from the magnitude of trouble causing us to intervene. Vito 2016-08-06 9:29 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: > Hoi, > You make a mistake. You are talking to one of the most influential > Wikimedians. Andy is professional in the width and the breath and quality > of what he does as a Wikimedian. He is quite capable of understanding > policy and he is quite capable of expressing his well founded opinion. The > controversy comes to light and does not go away because it is between an > important admin who I highly regard for the work that he does and myself.It > does not stop because the arguments are clear and obvious and contrary to > what you indicate no arguments are given by any of the other admins except > for "I do not have to do this". The point with arguments is you cannot deny > them but you can ignore them or refute them. Only the ignore bit is present. > > As to disregarding policy, let us just look at property 500 and see it for > the example it is. Admins on Wikidata are not as relevant on Wikidata as > they are on Wikipedia that is easily explained. As a group they do > whatever, I have little interaction with them I do what I do and with over > two million edits with many many manual edits in there I can safely say > that I prefer it that way and, I know my Wikidata quite well. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 6 August 2016 at 08:42, Yaroslav M. Blanter <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Andy Mabbett писал 2016-08-04 22:45: >> >>> On 1 August 2016 at 01:05, Vi to <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Finally, just to clarify: undeletions by stewards are completely out of >>>> our >>>> mission and policies (I, for one, would rather intervene to delete ^^), >>>> same >>>> for the staffers. No chances to overrule a community for such trivial >>>> reasons. >>>> >>> >>> There is no community action to overrule. The deletion was done by >>> single, involved admin, with no discussion, and without any backing in >>> policy. >>> >> >> Really? And we, the admin cabal, just massively disregard policies? >> >> May be you should learn to listen at some point. You have been provided >> with all necessary explanations, multiple times. You may agree or disagree, >> but repeatedly stating there were no explanations is IDONOTHEARIT. >> >> Stop it. >> >> Cheers >> Yaroslav >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >
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