Hi Amit,

Thanks for your email. I'll contact you privately.

Kind regards,
Hector

On Jan 4, 2017 9:44 AM, "AMIT KUMAR JAISWAL" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello Hector,
>
> This all sounds very exciting. Kudos to you!!
>
> According to my own opinion, I would say Wikiopinion.org fall under a
> non-profit project under Wikimedia Foundation.
> Yes, I'm up for this and would like to join as a
> volunteer(Developer/Community Liaison).
> I'll help Wikiopinion.org to fund raise.
>
> Looking forward to join your team.
>
> Regards,
> Amit Kumar Jaiswal
>
> On 1/4/17, Hector Perez <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi all, I proposed to create Wikiopinion.org based on our work on
> AgreeList
> > that might fit into Wikidata [1]. I paste it here:
> >
> > Storytelling was the most important way to share knowledge for thousands
> of
> > years — before writing was invented — so our brains evolved to be
> > influenced by stories. As Conor Neil explains, many times we are still
> > “more easily persuaded by one clear and concrete anecdote than by data
> and
> > expert statistical analysis”. He says that, “an anecdote is a one off. It
> > is not data. It is not science. It is dangerous”.
> >
> > This made me think about two things:
> >
> > Firstly, people such as Lydia Pintscher of Wikidata and Dario Taraborelli
> > of Wikicite are working on projects that improve considerably the quality
> > of Wikipedia and they could even accelerate world’s research.
> >
> > Wikidata is a collaboratively edited knowledge base:
> > ...
> >
> > And Wikicite is building a repository of all Wikimedia citations and
> > bibliographic metadata. The sum of all citations:
> > ...
> >
> > Secondly, it also made me think about how this relates to the work we
> have
> > been doing with AgreeList.com With AgreeList, we are creating a ‘platform
> > for informed opinions’ that gathers the opinions of leading experts and
> > influencers and favors the building of rational opinions on issues of key
> > importance. Our first issue was ‘Brexit’ where we collected the opinions
> of
> > almost 2000 opinion-makers on the impact of Brexit to the UK economy,
> > immigration, politics, and education, and built a summary of opinions on
> > both sides to inform the public during the referendum. In other words, we
> > believe in the value of informed opinions over anecdotes and the data of
> > who agrees on what and why can help us to build our own opinion. E.g. if
> > NASA, the Royal Society, Obama, the Pope and a friend of mine who knows
> > more about climate change than me think that it’s real and we should do
> > more to tackle it, I believe it.
> >
> > Similarly, if I read something health-related, I can check the number of
> > doctors who agree or disagree as fast as I see the number of likes on
> > Facebook. If it is more than 95%, I believe it straight away. Done. I
> > learned a new thing today. This way we could fight the fact that false
> > health content seems to be more popular on social media and we could get
> > informed of more topics than ever.
> >
> > When we are interested in a topic and have time, we read about it and
> > contrast different points of views. But when we don’t have time or are
> not
> > interested in something, we believe what our culture, friends and
> > influencers say. And we are so bombarded with information nowadays that
> we
> > can’t get informed about everything all the time.
> >
> > However, when we want to have an educated opinion about a complex topic
> > such as Universal Basic Income, we can read the arguments and even go to
> > the sources where we can find more information. We are still building up
> > the database on Basic Income and it is currently biased towards opinions
> in
> > favour given that it is easier to find them given how early stage the
> > public debate and the AgreeList tool are, but you can see below what
> > different opinion-makers say about Universal Basic Income via Agreelist:
> > ...
> >
> > And when there are many opinions, such as on Brexit, we organise them in
> a
> > board or summary that aggregates the arguments per categories.
> >
> > We can also filter them by profession, university, awards (e.g. Nobel
> Prize
> > winners), etc. E.g:
> > ...
> >
> > How did we get this data? First, the data from occupations comes from
> > Wikidata. Second, the data of who agrees on topics such as these ones is
> on
> > AgreeList. These lists are crowdsourced — people add influencer’s
> opinions.
> > Users only need to provide a source, for example an article in the New
> York
> > Times or the tweet of the person. Moreover, users of the site can vote
> and
> > add their own opinions and, at some point, we could aggregate opinions
> > automatically by semantic analysis. This way we might organise all the
> > opinions in the world on key topics or statements. AgreeList or
> Wikiopinion
> > could one day become ‘The sum of all opinions’.
> >
> > We can also play with Google BigQuery to do joins of AgreeList’s tables
> > with Wikidata’s ones. For example, in order to get all Nobel laureates in
> > economics that agreed or disagreed on Brexit before the referendum we
> did a
> > query and we got:
> > ...
> >
> > Extent is the degree to which they agree (at least for now it can only be
> > 100=agree or 0=disagree). Therefore we got that from all Nobel laureates
> in
> > economics that have ever given their opinion on Brexit (on the BBC, their
> > twitter account or whatever), all 11 of them disagreed. As every
> > opinion/vote on AgreeList has a source, we see then that 10 of them
> signed
> > a letter published on The Guardian and the other one is Paul Krugman who
> > gave his opinion in The New York Times.
> >
> > Then, if for example we go to Paul Krugman’s Wikidata page, we see that
> he
> > worked for the MIT in the past. What if we want now to get all the public
> > figures that supported Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump who work or have
> > worked for the MIT? Easy, we just change the property to P108 (employer),
> > set it in the where clause to Q49108 (MIT) and select the
> statement_id=182
> > (or we could add a new join and specify the title) and the result of this
> > new query is:
> > ...
> >
> > We see that from 7 people who are or have been employed by the MIT, 6 of
> > them preferred Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.
> >
> > This is what we have done until now.
> >
> > The next natural step of AgreeList is to add social network features
> where
> > you can see what people you follow are discussing, opinions from the
> topics
> > you follow, etc. Next, if I post/agree that governments should do more to
> > tackle climate change, other users could add then that I also agree that
> > climate change is real and that we need to act on climate change —
> > organising in this way the opinions.
> >
> > Other important aspect could be that AgreeList questions your opinions.
> > Besides having the list of people who disagree with you (and why) just
> > there, it could tell you, do you know that Tim Berners-Lee and your
> friend
> > from school disagree with you on this? Would you like to see why?
> > Therefore, this could be a social network which challenges what you post
> > and help to tackle the fact that the Internet is allegedly full of myths
> > and mis-truths — as pointed out by Tim Berners-Lee says. Similarly,
> > Facebook recently said that it must do more to stop the spread of
> > misinformation on its platform.
> >
> > This could be specially important because on mainstream social media
> there
> > is a filter bubble — as described by Eli Pariser in one of his books.
> > Social media networks tend to hide the opinions that differ from what we
> > think. We only listen to the media that agrees with what we think.
> >
> > This is so significant that Tom Steinberg said that social media giants
> > will be remembered, not by their business successes, but by how well they
> > tackle the problem of the filter bubble.
> >
> > This filter bubble makes the polarisation of opinions worse. You can see
> > Barack Obama talking about polarisation of opinions:
> > ...
> >
> > Taking all of this into account, we are considering whether the best
> > approach for Agreelist is a non-profit project in a new organisation or
> > under Wikimedia Foundation if they like the idea — it could be renamed as
> > Wikiopinion.org — or a for-profit startup.
> >
> > As a non-profit project it would focus on its social impact and it would
> > follow the three golden rules of the Internet: nobody owns it, everybody
> > uses it, and anybody can add services to it — which are what
> distinguished
> > the Internet from any previous communications medium according to Vinton
> > Cerf— so initially that seems to make sense.
> >
> > On Wikipedia, Wikidata and the other Wikimedia projects, facts precede
> > opinions. So it is not clear if Agreelist (or Wikiopinion.org) would be a
> > good fit as a non-profit project under the Wikimedia umbrella.
> >
> > In fact, my friend Ángel Alberich — CEO @QuibimBiomarker & MIT Innovator
> > Under 35 — says that facts should not be opinable. However, I argue that
> > knowing exactly who has a different opinion (and why) might be really
> > useful. For example, more than 100 Nobel laureates signed a
> letterendorsing
> > Genetic Modified Organisms (GMO) and challenging the environmental NGO
> > Greenpeace to halt its anti-GMO campaigns to prevent the introduction of
> > potentially life saving options for the world’s poor. Ángel said that
> there
> > is not a single scientific paper which says that they present a hazard
> for
> > human health. But as Greenpeace and many governments are so reluctant,
> > isn’t there a clear need for something else that facilitates discussion?
> > Would it not be useful to know which ones of your friends and
> > representatives disagree and try to convince them?
> >
> > Similarly, despite the fact that almost all scientists agree that climate
> > change is real and that we need to act, there are still many politicians
> > who deny it or don’t do enough to tackle it.
> >
> > However, as Greg Mankiw — Harvard professor in economics — said in
> Leonardo
> > DiCaprio’s recent film about climate change, if we want to change
> > politicians view on something, we have to change people’s view first.
> >
> > Therefore, a social network which organises opinions and challenges what
> > you think might help to do so. Actually, Barack Obama recently said on
> > Wired that at some point we might make voting and civic activism as
> > addictive as scrolling through your Twitter feed.
> >
> > Let’s do exactly that, a social network where we discover, share and
> > organise a plurality of opinions where the objective could be to help us
> > make up our mind. In other words, to accelerate quality decision making.
> >
> > And this could be really important because of three reasons:
> >
> > As the MIT professor Alex Pentland said:
> >
> > The biggest problem in the world is not global warming, is not war, but
> how
> > can we organise among ourselves to make good decisions and carry them
> out.
> > ...
> >
> > 2. According to Terry Jones— disruption occurs when new technology allows
> > us to deliver new forms of asynchronous communication. And this is what
> > AgreeList is about. Until now, if you wanted to get a quick opinion on
> > Basic Income and the arguments on both sides, you had to go to many
> > different sites or talk to multiple people. Not any more.
> >
> > 3. As the economist Jeffrey Sachs said in his book The End of Poverty,
> the
> > single most important reason why prosperity spreads is the transmission
> of
> > technologies and the ideas underlying them. But currently we don’t need
> > more bridges or faster communications (in the privileged part of the
> > world), but making up our mind accurately in the myriad of the new topics
> > that arise in our hectic lives.
> >
> > To sum up, we think that a social network that challenges what you post
> and
> > organises who agrees on what and why would complement Wikipedia and the
> > traditional story telling. What do you think? Would you like to join us?
> > Should this project be non-profit or for-profit? Would you donate or help
> > us to fund raise?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Hector
> >
> > [1]. Original post: https://medium.com/@HectorPere
> > z/wikipedias-social-network-578b0257b8ae
> >
>
>
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