Though I agree Daniel with what you wrote about redirects, we do have a
policy (I believe I have read this somewhere) that if you create a redirect
in the case of two items about the same thing, then it should always be the
older item number that survives (and the merge gadget is supposed to check
for this). Maybe that's too much detail information though. So for the
given example "Moon" was created first and thus it is "Moon" id that should
survive, whether or not the label is set to "The Moon" later.

<quote>

Yes, page IDs survive renaming/moving the page.

> 2. What if we have page "Moon" with ID=1. Someone creates a second-page
> "The_Moon" with ID=2. Is it possible that page "Moon" is transformed into
a
> redirect? Then, "Moon" would be redirecting to page "The_Moon"?

Yes, pages can become redirects.
</quote>

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de
> wrote:

> Hello Gintautas!
>
> Am 21.04.2017 um 17:58 schrieb Gintautas Sulskus:
> > I have a couple of questions regarding the Wiki Page ID. Does it always
> stay
> > unique for the page, where the page itself is just a placeholder for any
> kind of
> > information that might change over time?
>
> That is indeed the idea. COntent changes, the page ID stays the same. If
> you
> need to identify a specific state of the page, use the revision ID (aka
> permalink).
>
> Note however that page IDs are considered "internal" identifiers. They are
> stable, but they are not the canonical way to access or identify a page.
> Use the
> title for that - or, in the context of Wikidata, use the entity ID.
>
> > Consider the following cases:
> > 1. The first time someone creates page "Moon" it is assigned ID=1. If at
> some
> > point the page is renamed to "The_Moon", the ID=1 remains intact. Is
> this correct?
>
> Yes, page IDs survive renaming/moving the page.
>
> > 2. What if we have page "Moon" with ID=1. Someone creates a second-page
> > "The_Moon" with ID=2. Is it possible that page "Moon" is transformed
> into a
> > redirect? Then, "Moon" would be redirecting to page "The_Moon"?
>
> Yes, pages can become redirects.
>
> > 3. Is it possible for page "Moon" to become a category "Category:Moon"
> with the
> > same ID=1?
>
> Yes, pages can be moved into the category namespace.
>
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>
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