Dear Mr., I thank you for your answer. I agree. We do not need aeb. In fact, we have an Arabic and a Latin Script for Tunisian. Concerning the long discussions on this issue, the problem is that before 2015 there were no reference linguistic research paper about the Latin Script. That is why we decided to create a formal Latin Script and apply it in our Wikimedia projects. However, the project failed as we failed to convince people to use the new writing system. But, nowadays, Arabizi, the main Latin Script for Tunisian, is efficiently described by the research literature. We currently have five detailed descriptions of Tunisian Arabizi. So, we can use it. Consequently, we can write the native name of AEB-LATN as "Tounsi". Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36 GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group Member, WikiResearch Tunisia Member, Wiki Project Med Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb Founder, TunSci ____________________ +21629499418
-------- Message d'origine -------- De : Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> Date : 2019/04/22 07:16 (GMT+01:00) À : Discussion list for the Wikidata project <[email protected]> Objet : Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata and Tunisian Arabic Hoi, Having both aeb, aeb-arab and aeb-latn available is wrong. There should be aeb that is implicitly in the default Arabic script. When you want to have both Latin and Arabic as default you do not need the aeb. Thanks, GerardM On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 02:54, Houcemeddine A. Turki <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Dear all, I thank you for your answers. I am sure that using Wikidata to support Arabic dialects including Tunisian is simpler. Effectively, all what should be done is to translate Mediawiki system messages and add labels, descriptions and aliases to all Wikidata items and properties. However, we are facing several problems. Now, according to https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Pasleim/Language_statistics_for_items, we have added 3,711 labels, 3,324 descriptions and 217,740 aliases in Arabic Script. Although we were behind the labels and descriptions, we do not find how the aliases were added. I ask if I can see and track these aliases so that I can verify if they are accurate. We found as well that 196,119 labels, 3 descriptions and 23,581 aliases were added in Latin Script (AEB-LATN). After verification, we found that Mr. Marcus Cyron is who added the important output for Latin Script. In fact, he automatically considers the English name of a European or American person as the label of this person in AEB-LATN. If we consider Arabizi as the Latin Script of Tunisian, the rule should be "The French name of a person is considered de facto as the label of this person in AEB-LATN except when the person was born or lives in an OIC country (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Organisation_of_Islamic_Cooperation)". Mr. Marcus Cyron is kindly required to adjust this rule and he is thanked in advance to apply it on all Wikidata entities. He can also apply the rule to non-OIC towns. Concerning AEB, I ask if a module can be added to Wikidata so that it automatically considers all labels, descriptions and aliases of AEB-ARAB as the ones of AEB. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36 GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group Member, WikiResearch Tunisia Member, Wiki Project Med Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb Founder, TunSci ____________________ +21629499418 _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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