Indeed, these collaborations in high-energy physics are not static quantities, they change essentially every day (people getting hired and had their contract expired, and most likely every two papers have a slightly different author list.
Cheers Yaroslav On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 5:58 PM Darren Cook <dar...@dcook.org> wrote: > > We may also want to consider if Wikidata is actually the best store for > > all kinds of data. Let's consider example: > > > > https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q57009452 > > > > This is an entity that is almost 2M in size, almost 3000 statements ... > > A paper with 2884 authors! arxiv.org deals with it by calling them the > "Atlas Collaboration": https://arxiv.org/abs/1403.0489 > The actual paper does the same (with the full list of names and > affiliations in the Appendix). > > The nice thing about graph databases is we should be able to set author > to point to an "Atlas Collaboration" node, and then have that node point > to the 2884 individual author nodes (and each of those nodes point to > their affiliation). > > What are the reasons to not re-organize it that way? > > My first thought was that who is in the collaboration changes over time? > But does it change day to day, or only change each academic year? > > Either way, maybe we need to point the author field to something like > "Atlas Collaboration 2014a", and clone-and-modify that node each time we > come to a paper that describes a different membership? > > Or is it better to do each persons membership of such a group with a > start and end date? > > (BTW, arxiv.org tells me there are 1059 results for ATLAS Collaboration; > don't know if one "result" corresponds to one "paper", though.) > > > While I am not against storing this as such, I do wonder if it's > > sustainable to keep such kind of data together with other Wikidata data > > in a single database. > > It feels like it belongs in "core" Wikidata. Being able to ask "which > papers has this researcher written?" seems like a good example of a > Wikidata query. Similarly, "which papers have The ATLAS Collaboration" > worked on?" > > But, also, are queries like "Which authors of Physics papers went to a > high school that had more than 1000 students?" part of the goal of > Wikidata? If so, Wikidata needs optimizing in such a way that makes such > queries both possible and tractable. > > Darren > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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