Hoi,
Or we could revisit the notion of the "defined meaning" it is at the basis
of OmegaWiki, a predecessor to Wikidata and developed with lexical data in
mind.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 at 20:19, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]>
wrote:
> There has been a number of discussions about translations. At the moment,
> the whole situation is very similar to the original interwiki (sitelink)
> issue -- a lexeme in each language has to point to corresponding lexemes in
> all other languages. This issue was actually what started Wikidata in the
> first place :). On one hand, lexemes could just point to Q-items, except
> that many lexemes do not represent "a concept" (WD requirement), but could
> be something else like adjective. Also, there is a problem of transitivity
> - a word in EN translates to FR which translates to HU, but EN might not
> correspond to HU (I do not know any examples of this, and this could be a
> made-up issue that could be solved via other means, just like with
> interwikis). Or we could create a new Wikidata namespace "Sense", and all
> lexemes will use that.
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:40 PM Jo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I tried adding translations to Wikidata Lexemes. First I had to add
>> senses to 2 Lexemes and then I had to add translation statements to those.
>>
>> I hope I did it right. Not even sure of that. If I did it right, then I'd
>> like to say that this is way too complicated.
>>
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L21957
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L9286
>>
>> And I had to do it twice, to get the translation to work in both
>> directions. The worst is though, that after having done this, they show
>> translation: L21957-S1
>>
>> Which is rather useless. Why can't the Lexeme be shown instead? And then
>> I mean the text version, not its L-number.
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:26 PM Léa Lacroix <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata
>>> over the last week.*
>>> Events
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events>
>>>
>>> - Past: Wikidata et Wiktionnaire
>>>
>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2019/Programme/Wikidata_et_Wiktionnaire_:_retour_sur_un_%C3%A9chec_annonc%C3%A9>
>>> session at the French-speaking WikiConvention by Pamputt
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Pamputt> (slides
>>>
>>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_et_Wiktionnaire_-_retour_sur_un_%C3%A9chec_annonc%C3%A9_Wikiconvention2019.pdf>
>>> )
>>> - Upcoming: WikidataWednesday in Vienna
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Events/Vienna/WikidataWednesday>,
>>> September 18th
>>> - Upcoming: Wikidata meetup in Paris
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Events/Paris>, September 20th
>>> - Upcoming: #4 Wikidata tea party/第4回 ウィキデータ茶話会
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/events/2456357704647897/>, 20 Sep 2019 in
>>> Tokyo, Japan
>>> - Upcoming: Wikibase Workshop/ウィキベースワークショップ
>>> <https://peatix.com/event/1301388/>, 28 Sep 2019 in Tokyo, Japan
>>>
>>> Press, articles, blog posts
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Press_coverage>
>>>
>>> - Wikidata gets wordier
>>>
>>> <https://magazine.multilingual.com/previewissue/sept-oct-2019/wikidata-gets-wordier/>,
>>> by Christian Lieske and Felix Sasaki on Multilingual
>>> - *Non-Parametric Class Completeness Estimators for Collaborative
>>> Knowledge Graphs -- The Case of Wikidata
>>> <https://arxiv.org/pdf/1909.01109.pdf>* - Michael Luggen, , et al.
>>>
>>> Tool of the week
>>>
>>> - Hauki <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Vesihiisi/Hauki> lets
>>> you browse existing Lexemes, add Senses to them, and easily create new
>>> Lexemes for common languages and lexical categories.
>>>
>>> Other Noteworthy Stuff
>>>
>>> - мир (L99999) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L99999>
>>> (peace), мир (100000) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L100000>
>>> (world/earth) and L166666
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L166666> were created
>>>
>>> Did you know?
>>>
>>> - Newest properties
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListProperties>:
>>> - General datatypes: cumulative elevation gain
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7297>, climbing route
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7309>
>>> - External identifiers: Lower Austrian Museum ID
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7296>, Auckland Museum ID
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7298>, MUBI film ID
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7299>, MUBI person ID
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7300>, Al-Jazeera topic
>>> ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7301>, Digital Giza ID
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7302>, Grammy Awards
>>> artist ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7303>, Highland
>>> Historic Environment Record ID
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7304>, Online PWN
>>> Encyclopedia <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7305>,
>>> Downdetector
>>> ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7306>, TOP500 System
>>> ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7307>, National
>>> Wildlife Refuge Trails ID
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7308>, Maine Trail
>>> Finder ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7310>
>>> - New property proposals
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property_proposal>
>>> to review:
>>> - General datatypes: Masters Thesis
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Masters_Thesis>,
>>> OFLC classification (New Zealand)
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/OFLC_classification_(New_Zealand)>,
>>> worn by
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/worn_by>,
>>> station type, interchange, status, first, last and so on
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/station_type,_interchange,_status,_first,_last_and_so_on>,
>>> front and backside
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/front_and_backside>
>>> - External identifiers: Archnet Site ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archnet_Site_ID>,
>>> Trail Finder ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Trail_Finder_ID>,
>>> ExplorePaTrails ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/ExplorePaTrails_ID>,
>>> code DANE
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/code_DANE>,
>>> ICD-11
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/ICD-11>,
>>> SMHI drainage basin ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/SMHI_drainage_basin_ID>,
>>> Letteraturaitaliana.net author ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Letteraturaitaliana.net_author_ID>,
>>> NMM artist ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/NMM_artist_ID>,
>>> Pathway Ontology ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pathway_Ontology_ID>,
>>> Mixer game ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Mixer_game_ID>,
>>> Vudu video ID
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Vudu_video_ID>
>>> - Query examples:
>>> - Number of times a Wikidata item for Carl von Linnaeus was
>>> created <https://w.wiki/8Tb>
>>> - Picture of species were the author(s) of the first scientific
>>> description is in WD and connected to Uppsala University Alvin
>>> database
>>> <https://w.wiki/8TM>
>>> - same query but where we miss a picture in Wikidata
>>> <https://w.wiki/8TQ>
>>> - Twins with different places of birth <https://w.wiki/8TX> (
>>> source
>>> <https://twitter.com/WikidataFacts/status/1172905478902505472>)
>>> - Places in Scottish local government areas <https://w.wiki/8TY> (
>>> source
>>> <https://twitter.com/Tagishsimon/status/1172506297985654784>)
>>> - Libraries in Austria <https://w.wiki/8Ta> (source
>>> <https://twitter.com/LibrErli/status/1171748646980902912>)
>>> - Schema examples:
>>> - space probe <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/EntitySchema:E119>
>>> - Tsunami <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/EntitySchema:E115>
>>> - Newest WikiProjects
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects>:
>>> Textile arts
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Textile_arts>,
>>> Dark <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Dark>
>>>
>>> Development
>>>
>>> - Started working on two new projects: improving the resource loader
>>> module <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/4268> and
>>> tainted
>>> references <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/4242>
>>> - Wikidata Bridge: save the Wikidata edit when submitting (
>>> phab:T226999 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226999>)
>>> - Show the label for the Property instead of the id (phab:T227759
>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227759>)
>>> - Warn user about blank edit summary on EntitySchema (phab:T230399
>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230399>)
>>>
>>> You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here
>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R>. If
>>> you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a
>>> volunteer
>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority>.
>>>
>>> Monthly Tasks
>>>
>>> - Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed
>>> above.
>>> - Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Overview>
>>> - Suggested and open tasks
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contribute/Suggested_and_open_tasks>
>>> !
>>> - Contribute to a Showcase item
>>>
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Showcase_items>
>>> .
>>> - Help translate
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:LanguageStats> or proofread
>>> the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
>>> - Help merge identical items
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Pasleim/projectmerge> across
>>> Wikimedia projects.
>>> - Help write the next summary!
>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
>>>
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