So it sounds like the viz for summary aggregation for full stats might be more painful that worth for only a few users interested (like me), and I figured as much and knew the problem well. (I've done your job before! but semi-retired now just this week!)
Yeah, in fact, I LOOKED for a little download button on each viz panel. I noticed the download .png button and others...but no "download data table" button. If that download button on panels is easy to add and not much trouble, I can open the Phab ticket, or you can on my behalf. Thad https://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/ On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 9:19 AM Goran Milovanovic < [email protected]> wrote: > Hey Thad, > > thanks for feedback! > > The tables as you have described them can be introduced to the dashboards. > We can also add an option to download the data from each visualization like > we do in the Wikidata Concepts Monitor. > > As of particular item statistics, there are > 70 million of them, so... I > would go for batch processed, .csv-ed, compressed and then published open > data sets. > > Now - the visualizations and hovering over > 400 data points: there's > nothing I can do about that, that is simply the number of Wikidata > languages considered. No one ever said a complex database of the magnitude > of this one can be visualized in a simple fashion. So there are things that > we can do from the viewpoint of ergonomics, and things that we cannot > simply because of the scale of the problem. I think that I've used Plotly > to produce the charts so the zoom tool should be available there. > > The data sets used to produce this dashboard are *barely* computable with > our current stat100* servers + Apache Spark running on our (not bad at all) > cluster. > > In any case, if you would like to see any fundamental improvements here, > you now the game: open a Phab ticket, ping me, and Lydia who will decide on > the priorities for the features suggested. > > Once again, thanks a lot. > > Best regards, > > Goran S. Milovanović, > Data Scientist for Wikidata, WMDE > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 15:59 Thad Guidry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oh, and columns for "UNESCO Language Status|Ethnologue Status|" as well ! >> >> Thad >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/ >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 8:53 AM Thad Guidry <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> So... >>> A lot of the visualizations are attempting to show summary aggregations, >>> if you look really well. >>> I found myself needing to hover over hundred of colored dots, just to >>> see what the details where for things along the Tops or Bottoms of various >>> viz's. >>> If you look at what many of the viz's are trying to show, something >>> about an "... Item ..." , then it's clear that seeing the Items is >>> important for context and analysis! This was also why I was having to >>> hover over so many hundreds of dots...I needed more context of WHICH Item! >>> >>> So... >>> It would be useful to expose Items themselves within summary >>> aggregations. >>> For that, a simple table will do! >>> I would say the Ontology tab is actually just barely OK for the >>> information it's trying to present (linkage), but a tabular view that can >>> sort by column would work well alternatively. Its fine to discover WHICH >>> Relations, but not so much for summary aggregation. Good old Tables or Bar >>> charts work well for that also! >>> >>> Proposal: >>> An extra tab to display a table view showing >>> "Qxxxx|Relations|Num.labels|Num.sitelinks|% of items reused" that can be >>> sorted on column. >>> >>> Thad >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/ >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 7:52 AM Léa Lacroix <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> A new dashboard got released for Wikidata’s birthday, and I realized >>>> that it was not properly announced here - sorry for that, let’s catch up :) >>>> >>>> The *Wikidata Languages Landscape dashboard >>>> <https://wmdeanalytics.wmflabs.org/WD_LanguagesLandscape/>* provides >>>> insights into the ways languages are organized and used in Wikidata and >>>> across the Wikimedia projects that reuse Wikidata. It relies on different >>>> data sources: the Wikidata dumps, various datasets obtained directly from >>>> the Query Service, and datasets on Wikidata entity reuse statistics >>>> obtained from the Wikidata Concepts Monitor >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikidata_Concepts_Monitor>. >>>> >>>> The dashboard provides different features: >>>> >>>> - The *ontology* tab, visualizing the graph of Wikidata ontology >>>> regarding languages >>>> - The *language/class* tab, generating graphs of items connected to >>>> a language, class or category >>>> - The *label sharing* graph, showing how similar the languages are >>>> judging from the extent of their overlap in what Wikidata items they >>>> have >>>> labels for >>>> - The *language status* tab, focussing on the UNESCO language >>>> endangerment categories and the Ethnologue language status >>>> - The *language use* tab, representing various indicators of >>>> language usage in Wikidata and across the Wikimedia projects >>>> >>>> If you have any questions related to this dashboard, feel free to ask. >>>> >>>> See also: full documentation of the dashboard >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata_Languages_Landscape>. >>>> Cheers, >>>> -- >>>> Léa Lacroix >>>> Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata >>>> >>>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. >>>> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 >>>> 10963 Berlin >>>> www.wikimedia.de >>>> >>>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. 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