Yep!

Thad
https://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 5:08 PM Wiljes, Cord <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Thad,
>
>
>
> thank you for your very helpful answer and great advice. I would prefer
> not to use “interested in”, because that is often different from “having a
> skill” (though there certainly is some statistical correlation). I am
> interested in art, but have absolutely no skill in drawing. On the other
> hand, I have substantial skill in doing tax declarations, but absolutely no
> interest.
>
>
>
> I understand that Wikidata aims to capture facts that can – or could -  be
> verified by external sources. Therefore, skills are only relevant for
> Wikidata if they are certified by an institution. However, “interested in”
> seems even more subjective and difficult to verify.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Cord
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Wikidata [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag
> von *Thad Guidry
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 9. Oktober 2020 21:41
> *An:* Discussion list for the Wikidata project <
> [email protected]>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Wikidata] Property to encode the skills of a person
>
>
>
> Hi Cord,
>
>
>
> We do not have such a property for various reasons but historically
> because of fear of extra vandalism (which I don't completely agree with),
> difficulty with adding references to support the statement claims (I agree
> that's hard and why certified_as is being discussed below and why P4968 was
> added to help), and other reasons.
>
>
>
> I would suggest to look at the following Property proposals:
>
>
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/certified_as
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/ESCO_Skill
>
>
>
> as well as:
>
>
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P4968
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1576
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P101
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P106
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P8258
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2650
>
>
> I think your closest ally to help with an immediate problem would be to
> reframe it as "this person -> interested in P2650
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2650> -> food toxicology"  with
> the idea that they not only interested but also skilled or specialized in
> some field of study or area of research"  It's about the best you can do
> for now...but perhaps the other listed properties above help you more
> depending on the context.  For instance, a prominent notable professor or
> researcher can be said to be "skilled" in "ancient history" but it is more
> likely their "field of work" or "field of training" is in "ancient history".
>
>
>
> For languages, you can already use  languages spoken, written or signed
> P1412 <https://www.wikidata.org/entity/P1412> and native language P103
> <http://native%20language%20P103>
>
>
>
> It's always best to look at the properties for this type P1963
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1963> on any particular entity
> type, such as looking and scrolling down on Q5 human
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5> or Q901 scientist
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q901> which already lists many of those
> properties above.  Whatever is in properties for this type
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1963> is further used as a
> dropdown statement hint and its based on if you apply a instance of
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31> statement and fill in a more
> specific type for a person, like saying this person is an instance of chess
> player <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10873124>, or scientist
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q901>, or politician
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q82955>.
>
>
>
> Thad
>
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 12:59 PM Wiljes, Cord <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Wikidata community,
>
>
>
> I am looking for a property to encode the skills (or expertise) that a
> person has, e.g. “C programming”, “ancient history”, “French”, “Ballroom
> dancing”. At best, it should be possible to add a qualifier for the skill
> level, e.g. “beginner”, “advanced”, “expert”. I have been looking for such
> a property on the properties page (
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties) but could not
> find one.
>
>
>
> Maybe there is a more general solution  - like using “significant person”
> qualified by “object has role” + “friend” to denote “hasFriend”?
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Cord
>
>
>
> -----
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>
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>
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