Hi Samuel,
It is not that simple, Samuel. There is much more to consider before we can decide with the help of the community of how we want to approach this. There are two things here: Bee's/Alison's suggestion, creating Cultural identities on Userpages, my idea of a template, which I had no idea it already existed on Wikipedia and the Culture Wiki content suggestions I made, which were only suggestions. There are so many aspects to Culture and it may take some time to build. I am planning to approach a few people in the community, to bring them in. We do not want to make the WikiEducator a second Wikipedia, so we need to ensure that the information we put there, has a relationship with education. The community should decide what would be useful and I would appreciate a few more comments and perspectives before we can go ahead and take action. A template is a good idea in my view, but what kind of information should we put in there that is culturally informative to others and not of a personal nature. You do not want to put personal information on your user page, unless you use your sandbox - your personal space - to do this. In that case it would be appropriate. I am sure others have more ideas. Feel free to comment. Samuel, what kind of blog are you referring to. All can be discussed right here on Wikieducator. Am I missing something? Cheers, Patricia ________________________________ From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Sarpong Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 5:14 AM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Userpages and Cultural Identity Wonderful, Pat everything is correct here. I thing we should create the blog now. On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Patricia Schlicht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Samuel, You have just set an example of how we could go about taking a more culturally sensitive approach. You mentioned that you are an Ashanti. Ashantis are one of Ghana's largest ethnic groups. You speak Twi, and Akan language that is similar to Fante, another dialect. Ashanti maintain a matrilineal societies where line of descent is traced through the female. Historically, this mother progeny relationship determined land rights, inheritance of property, offices and titles. This is really interesting and sets you apart from many others in our day and age of gender (in)equality. So here, for instance, you have an idea of what one could do, to create content on the Wiki under the country nodes and on the Culture Wiki (maybe linked??) that is culturally informative. The next step could be, starting to develop content that is culturally sensitive and relevant to Ashantis in Ghana. What could benefit Ashantis in particular: Marrying outside of their ethnic group??? A lesson on bridging the difference. Lessons on how the Ashanti society works. Proper Etiquette. Develop an Ashanti Cookbook that can be taught online? I am just thinking out loud. On Wikipedia, just co-incidently, when I checked what an Ashanti means: I saw found this and thought, now this is interesting and along the line what I suggested yesterday as template, not knowing it already existed: The syntax is this: '''Ashanti''', or '''Asante''', are a major [[ethnic group]] in [[Ghana]]. The Ashanti speak [[Twi]], an [[Akan languages|Akan language]] similar to [[Fante language|Fante]]. For the Ashanti (Asante) Confederacy see [[Asanteman]]. {{ethnic group |group=Ashanti |image=[[Image:Flag of Ashanti.svg|250px]] |poptime=Upwards of 5 million |popplace= central [[Ghana]] |rels= [[Christianity]], [[Traditional]], [[Muslim]] |langs= [[Twi]] |related= [[Akan]], [[Fante]] }} And it looks like this: Ashanti <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Flag_of_Ashanti.svg> Total population Upwards of 5 million Regions with significant populations central Ghana <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana> Language(s) Twi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twi> Religion(s) Christianity <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity> , Traditional <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional> , Muslim <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim> Related ethnic groups Akan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akan> , Fante <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fante> Cheers, Patricia ________________________________ From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Sarpong Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:55 PM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Userpages and Cultural Identity thanks, I am very interested in this project. I am very familiar with Ghanaian Culture. I am a Ghanaian and an ashanti by birth. I am also a linguist and can contribute to this project. Keep in inform on the various topic and i will start now. On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Randy Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Folks, I'm all for a cultural node - and yes, Patricia has a good start with Culture Wiki - what's needed is a few folks to rally 'round it, with some ideas and energy, and who knows where it can go and develop. Ahh, the twin themes of complexity and self-organization! I am particularly interested in this - first introduced by Wayne, and now building on it with two courses in my Masters Program in Organization Development (Fielding Graduate University). One of them is about Culture and Intercultural Processes in, and among diverse groups, and the other is Self-Organization and Complexity Theory. I am particularly interested in how both converge.... Here's one of the topics we've been talking about in the course: We're wondering what is required for self-organizing behaviour to manifest among people of different cultures, or if it simply dependes on the purpose or a given project's rationale. Prof. Gary Fontaine points to a raging discussion about the cultural diversity of perceptions (values, norms, expectations etc.) and the impact of cultural diversity in communication (verbal, nonverbal, level of context, etc.) on both self-organization and particle swarm optimization. (his area of research interest). As well, this is a neat area to twin the Culture Node with the Research Node in WikiEducator, and see what's possible in terms of facilitating dialogue and the creation of open educational content resources. Thoughts, feedback? - Randy On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 11:09 PM, mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alison -- Great suggestions - and smart thinking. -- I really like your suggestion of the the inverse of the Ambassodor/neighbour, ie. instead of taking wikieducator to your neighbours -- bring your neighbourhood to wikiEducator. Nice! Sure -- we should include a section in Tut 13 about sourcing free content images. Good idea. Also my assistant Patricia has an active interest in matters cultural and is working on a culture node in WE: http://wikieducator.org/Culture So maybe there is a connection opportunity here? eh -- don't stop - keep those good ideas flowing! Cheers Wayne On Mar 5, 9:36 pm, "Alison Ruth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Prescriptive is no good in a wiki environment, you're right there. > > More thinking aloud: A cultural node and/or a new level of wiki mastery that > people can opt into, not a compulsory level but a kind of cultural > ambassador to wikeducator, almost the opposite of the wiki > ambassador/neighbour - instead of taking wikieducator to your neighbours, > bring your neighbourhood to wikieducator ... > > Definitely give permission for the expression of cultural identity which I > think seems a bit constrained/restrained at the moment, we don't have to be > grown up all the time, do we? > > Perhaps as part of tutorial 13 - sourcing and using free images - the > challenge could be to find or bring in images representing your cultural > identity, oh and create a new subpage of your user page to do it, then link > that page from the cultural node! Just a thought. ... I should have > stopped earlier, eh? > > Alison > > On 06/03/2008, mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yeah I see what you mean -- > > > mmm thinking out loud here .... would a "tutorial" on tips and ideas > > to express cultural identity be the way to go? > > > Not so sure that I like the "tutorial" concept in this context because > > it seems a little too prescriptive and "paint-by-numbers" -- if you > > know what a mean. But rather to give folk the tools to express their > > cutural identity. > > > I really like the concept -- one of the most rewarding aspects of my > > job at COL is the amazing exposure to culture in many nuanced ways. It > > would be very powerful if we could find was of capturing some of this > > dynamic in WE. > > > Cheers > > Wayne > > > On Mar 5, 9:00 pm, "Alison Ruth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey again people > > > > Wayne: From what I remember, there are some people who have used their > > > userpages to show where they come from and special parts/aspects of > > their > > > > countries. A couple of examples are: > > http://wikieducator.org/User:Gabrielahttp://wikieducator.org/User:Mad. <http://wikieducator.org/User:Gabrielahttp:/wikieducator.org/User:Mad.> .. > > > > There seems to be a more personal touch to these userpages while many of > > us > > > go for more formal identities (like we're playing grown-ups in > > > WikiEducator). > > > > What happened in my course was that many international students took the > > > opportunity of their userpage to include an almost complete history (or > > > seemingly so) of their country. It was totally unexpected within the > > > course, but maybe shouldn't have been given their distance from home. > > > > One of the outcomes of what happened in my course was more recognition > > that > > > we need to provide space for cultural identity somewhere. This is also > > > being taken up at my colleague's university. > > > > How we could implement something like this beyond individually created > > > userpages would require some thinking (lots of cc licensed images from > > all > > > over the world would be a start - cultural icons eg our opera house, > > > kangaroos etc). It's an interesting leap you made there. > > > > Just a random thought: perhaps a part of the tutorial could be to > > include or > > > start a page about individual perceptions of their home country with a > > link > > > to the formal country page. It's almost another aspect of educational > > > information - providing personal insights into different cultures, > > > perspectives etc. This alone would provide a great resource for and > > about > > > cross and inter-cultural learning. > > > > Leigh: You have my sympathies but I'm sure we will welcome you back ;) > > *runs > > > away laughing maniacally* > > > > Alison > > > > On 06/03/2008, mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Alison, > > > > > Do you have any pointers to tips from what you remember from the > > > > WikiEd pages regarding cultural identity? > > > > I may be able to help some of these. > > > > > I do like the idea of a visualisation or some kind of association with > > > > cultural identity -- we could certainly think about developing > > > > specific User boxes for different identities? > > > > > Suggestions most welcome and we'll do our best to get these > > > > implemented. > > > > > Cheers > > > > Wayne > > > > > On Mar 5, 6:15 pm, "Alison Ruth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hey All > > > > > > A few years ago, I used a wiki for teaching a course of culturally > > > > diverse > > > > > students. One of the (unexpected) outcomes was wonderful displays > > of > > > > > cultural identity on userpages. Due to policies at my university, > > these > > > > are > > > > > no longer available (a huge tragedy). I know I've seen similar > > pages in > > > > > WikiEducator, but I cannot seem to find them today. > > > > > > A colleague from another university here in Aus is asking about > > these > > > > types > > > > > of pages, and I was wondering if anyone can point me to some in > > > > WikiEducator > > > > > I can show her? > > > > > > I'm slowly trolling through userpages (usually looking for other > > Aussies > > > > to > > > > > get our country page going), but am not being very successful. > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Alison -- ________________ Randy Fisher aka "Wikirandy for WikiEducator" http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Wikirandy + 1 604.684.2275 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hirerandy.com <http://www.hirerandy.com/> Skype: wikirandy <br <br --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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