Hi all,

Jim Kelly is an active contributor to Math Glossary. Please see
history of each alphabetic list of terms page.

I appreciate his efforts and worries regarding to make MathGloss a
high quality resource, he knows how hard is to deal with each concept,
in terms of wiki markup skills and being creative in developing
examples. I also totally agree with him.

Wayne,

We have some Copyright and CC concerns regarding to sources for
definitions and examples.
Could you please see 
http://www.wikieducator.org/Thread:Resource_Use_(Copyright_and_CC_licensing_topics)_(1)

You said: "It would be great if we could develop a few examples of
transclusion (i.e. creating pages / courses which are remixed from
other pages in the wiki).  mmmm - As our wiki-design experience
matures we could think about developing a tutorial on remixing
resources for effective learning."

I've been making some tests for transclusion
Please go to my "testing lab" :-) :
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808/My_sandbox#My_comments_about_transclusion

I guess this is what you are talking about. Is it?

Cheers,
Gladys Gahona
User:Chela5808


On 10 feb, 15:19, Wayne Mackintosh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Alison,
>
> I agree -- nothing supports learning better than a good example!  I hope
> that you released the pie-chart you created under a free content
> license ;-).
>
> I'm observing the development of the Math Glossary with great interest
> -- I wish I had more time to engage with this development. I was a
> learning designer in one of my past lives and am fascinated by the
> approaches emerging in WE.
>
> What's interesting about examples is that they are strongly influenced
> by the learning context (eg. culture, preknowledge, teaching approach
> etc.) -- perhaps more in the humanities than the hard sciences.  This
> raises a challenge for us in WikiEducator regarding how we structure
> resources, examples and activities for different educational contexts
> and purposes. I'm really looking forward to seeing what emerges over
> time.
>
> Another dimension for potential development in WikiEducator would be in
> the area of teacher guidelines, tips and experiences to supplement the
> OERs we're developing.  After all -- we're a community of educators and
> sharing best practice and experience would be a great way to add value
> to our work. While this dimension has not received much attention yet, I
> should cite the Declan McCabe's work on the Biology for Elementary
> Schools project 
> (See:http://www.wikieducator.org/Biology_in_elementary_schools). These
> teaching materials include guidelines for teachers and reflections on
> implementing the lessons.
>
> Cheers
> Wayne
>
> On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 14:14 -0500, Alison Snieckus wrote:
> > Jim,
> > I completely agree. I'll go one step farther - examples need to be
> > realistic in some areas of math, particularly statistics and
> > probability. Which begs the question "realistic for who?" suggesting
> > the need for multiple examples with different contexts. We had a
> > recent discussion on the MathGloss (designed for learners aged 5-18)
> > talk page about this need. It's the examples and, I would add, the
> > tips for creation or interpretation that will be essential elements
> > going into the next phase of design for math learning resources.
>
> > I also agree that what needs to be learned in math is changing. IMO,
> > aspects of algebra II are becoming outdated (e.g., all of the rules
> > and methods for factoring complex polynomials). Over the last 10
> > years, there's been much talk (and some action) on including
> > statistics and probability as courses in secondary school in the US.
>
> > For example, I recently went looking for a pie chart to include as an
> > example. Of all of the freely-available images of pie charts that I
> > looked at I think only one was constructed to my satisfaction. I ended
> > up making my own. OK, so can you tell that my background is in data
> > analysis and statistics?
>
> > If you are nterested in making this vision of math learning resources
> > a reality, join us on the WikiEducator MathGloss project.
>
> > Hope to see you there,
> > Alison Snieckus, WE user: ASnieckus
>
> > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, jkelly952 <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >         While one can appreciate the time and effort that goes into
> >         collecting
> >         information from Wikipedia to develop the mathematics pages
> >         which are
> >         in SCHOOL-WIKIPEDIA.ORG , I hope that WikiEducator will not
> >         follow the
> >         same path. Only machines learn from definitions; human beings
> >         need
> >         examples (sometimes a lot!) to learn. For example "I am the
> >         cat" and
> >         the opposite is "I am not the cat".  Does more to create the
> >         foundation for understanding the term "negation"; than
> >         "Negation is
> >         the process that turns an affirmative statement into its
> >         opposite".
> >         Beginning and developing conceptualization of terms and ideas
> >         is what
> >         primary and to some extent secondary school learning is all
> >         about.
> >         Everyday situations generalized to become definitions is what
> >         learning
> >         is about at these levels.
>
> >         To help nations develop their own mathematics programs
> >         WikiEducator
> >         would be wise to go beyond the usual definitions provide by
> >         other
> >         Wiki's, and concentrate on providing examples and
> >         illustrations. This
> >         way educational leaders can select terms and ideas that meet
> >         their
> >         nation's needs for mathematics. And strangely even in the so
> >         called
> >         "mathematically rich nations" with their multiple mathematical
> >         programs need to have a mechanism so that they can rethink
> >         about what
> >         mathematics concepts should continue and what new terms and
> >         concepts
> >         should be brought into elementary and secondary schools. The
> >         world's
> >         need for mathematics is changing
>
> >         Jim Kelly
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