Hi John,

That's a really good idea....

Also, I'm with whoever, who said that these changes, or instructions should
be reflected in the tutorials.

I'm ccing our conversation to Rima - a new WikiEducator who's interested in
images too. Welcome Rima!

- Randy

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:43 PM, john stampe <[email protected]> wrote:

> Two thoughts:
>
> 1) Is there anyway of making mediawiki say something like "this image file
> already exists, do you wish to overwrite it" or alternatively, "this image
> file already exists, please use a different name" when there is a name
> conflict?
>
> 2) One way I have used is to enter the photo name in the wiki page text
> (before uploading it) and then click on "show preview". If a picture shows
> up then it has been used and I can try a different name. If there is just
> red text, then I click on it to get the upload page.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Gladys Gahona <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2009 9:36:31 PM
> *Subject:* [WikiEducator] Re: Uploaded file names, overwritten pictures
>
> I've also found this kind of editings in some image pages,
> Please see http://www.wikieducator.org/Image:Icon_activity.jpg
> Policies regarding usage of Special pages should be determined and widely
> published
>
> Cheers
> Gladys G.
>
> 2009/2/26 Gita Mathur <[email protected]>
>
>>
>> Image name Tips:
>> 1. short but specific. I have used GargiWEGita1, GargiWEGita2 etc.
>> 2. Avoid spaces as spaces get replaced by underscore eg. "Gargi WE
>> Gita 1" will become "Gargi_WE_Gita_1", it can be a source of error on
>> adding to user page.
>> 3. Image name should not be common words like 'scene' or 'smile' or
>> 'My Photo' which have the risk of duplication.
>> 4. Image name can be kept as a constant series eg. GargiWEGita1,
>> GargiWEGita2 etc. keep increasing the no. whenever you add new image.
>> 5. Tutorial should give suggestions for renaming, not a strict rule.
>> WikiEducator is all about innovationa :-)
>> Gita Mathur
>> [http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Gita_Mathur]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 26, 10:47 am, NELLIE DEUTSCH <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Usernames  followed by a photo or file is an excellent solution, Sarita.
>> > However, I would still encourage members to consider a suitable name
>> since
>> > many of my students write 111111111111111111111 for files.
>> > Warm wishes,
>> > Nellie Deutsch
>> > Doctoral Student
>> > Educational Leadership
>> > Curriculum and Instructionhttp://
>> www.wikieducator.org/EL4C21http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Nelliemuller
>> > skype:nelliedeutschmuller
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Sarita Kumar <
>> [email protected]>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi all!
>> >
>> > > Really a big and interesting problem. Even I have come across it so
>> many
>> > > times.
>> >
>> > > I think they should write their username follwed by the picture name,
>> i.e
>> >
>> > > username_picture name.....
>> >
>> > > Sarita
>> >
>> > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Randy Fisher 
>> > > <[email protected]>wrote:Hmm,
>> interesting problem....
>> >
>> > > What if, as a workaround, they name the photos: Chile Name_FotoName?
>> >
>> > > - Randy
>> >
>> > >  On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM, NELLIE DEUTSCH <
>> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> Declan,
>> > >>> I share your concerns. I think facilitators should stress the
>> importance
>> > >>> of name giving as they would a child. Facilitators should perhaps
>> suggest
>> > >>> participants collaborate when deciding on the best names for their
>> images
>> > >>> and files.
>> > >>> Any suggestions on how to teach students on best practices in naming
>> > >>> their images and files?
>> > >>> Warm wishes,
>> > >>> Nellie Deutsch
>> > >>> Doctoral Student
>> > >>> Educational Leadership
>> > >>> Curriculum and Instruction
>> > >>>http://www.wikieducator.org/EL4C21
>> > >>>http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Nelliemuller
>> > >>> skype:nelliedeutschmuller
>> >
>>  > >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Declan <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>> Hi folks,
>> >
>> > >>>> I don't know how big this problem is, but students of mine have
>> used
>> > >>>> fairly simple names for files such as 'me.jpg' and 'handout.png'
>> and
>> > >>>> saved them to the root directory.  In some cases they have
>> > >>>> inadvertently overwritten other files; their files have have been
>> over
>> > >>>> written by others.  A look at the history of this file(not one of
>> my
>> > >>>> students) illustrates the problem:
>> >
>> > >>>>http://www.wikieducator.org/Image:Picture.jpg
>> >
>> > >>>> It was actually rather amusing to see someone's profile picture
>> gazing
>> > >>>> fondly at us from the middle of a lesson plan, but probably
>> something
>> > >>>> we could have avoided if the uploader had heeded the message on the
>> > >>>> upload screen (my students have been guilty of ignoring that
>> message
>> > >>>> also).
>> >
>> > >>>> Suggestions:
>> > >>>> **I suggest that workshop and classroom facilitators (like myself)
>> > >>>> emphasize using unique and specific names for files.
>> > >>>> **Perhaps we should consider having images as sub pages of wiki
>> pages
>> > >>>> rather than using the typical flat structure of the wiki; is there
>> a
>> > >>>> way to modify the upload page such that file names default to being
>> > >>>> sub pages of the page from which the upload option was launched?
>> >
>> > >>>> Finally, perhaps this is a sufficiently rare problem that it can be
>> > >>>> ignored?
>> >
>> > >>>> Cheers,
>> >
>> > >>>> Declan
>> >
>> > >> --
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>
>
> >
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