> Would be great if you could join our WG to set up WG policies and procedures
> so that we can tackle our communication challenges using our WG polcies (to
> be drafted).  This is a little confusing -- but hope that you get the drift
> :-).

Wayne, You know I can't leave. But please, must WE be bureaucrats?
I'm old, but I still want some fun.

I'm trying very hard to understand what kind of tools different
communities prefer, can afford, or are willing to share, or share in
the building.
So when someone mentions one brand, like ning, (peter, nellie, pat,
etc) it has me rummaging through a bunch of domains, seeing which
combination of widgits is up to which stage of development today. e.g.
http://www.c4lpt.co.uk/Directory/Tools/social2.html

At the same time you've given me hope because you're on the advisory
for both WE and WMF. So encouraging the development of WG's tools,
which might federate across those two domains (as well as connexions,
OCWC domains, etc) is the challenge isn't it? Every domain,
unfortunately) puts "'their" community of groups at the top of "their"
tree. 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Federation#Federation_plan_for_Wikimedia

What is needed in the first instance is for both advisory boards to
agree on a place (in whatever domain) to share groups with a common
interest. If we get this principle agreed then we can look at their
preferred abd very diverse) flavour of I and CT  E.g. If you want to
have a play with having one phone number for our global group to talk,
you might play with this. http://www.gizmoconference.com/ . Which goes
to show, a "common place" needn't be defined by a domain name. (NB,
gizmo is an OPEN network, unlike Skype)

I have been busy with your "towards a learning institution" doc,
making notes
http://www.wikieducator.org/Talk:Funding_proposals/Towards_open_participatory_learning_environments:_Open_textbooks,_educator_training#lqt_thread_9405
and practicing. 
http://www.wikieducator.org/Practice:Towards_a_new_Institution_of_Learning#Adding_value_to_OER_infrastructure

If anyone has another "logic model", please link to it from the
disussion page. I really have a passion for such things.

I'm hoping we can at least see about adding education.au's name to
otago's, immediamum. This community are insearch of the obvious, like
us, and linking with them (got a handy MOU?) might help you out of an
Otago reductionism. 
http://me.edu.au/b/marktf/entry/edna_futures_discussion_paper

One key, if you want to drop it on the business managers over there,
is using KAREN to tap into akamai, and have them host NZ's unis OER
stuff.
We might look at doing some (higher bandwidth) stuff across the ditch,
both in real time and otherwise. At least that's going to be a
dicussion with marktf from education.au on thursday.

regards, simon






>
> > I have suggested to Brianna (in the Oz wikipedia chapter) that we
> > might also try to link up between BA and other spots around the globe
> > for Wikimania this year. It's probably a good time as many ISPs and
> > NREN's are trying to get their Quality of Service up, so they can
> > start kicking telcos' toll charges out of the way. NB There are about
> > 20,000 global students at my alma mater (
> >http://sae.edu/en-gb/news_overview/726/News
> > ) who are just starting to use this kind of tool.
>
> >http://www.hobnox.com/index.1018.en.html?blg[project_handle]=livetool-project<http://www.hobnox.com/index.1018.en.html?blg%5Bproject_handle%5D=live...>
> > They could use a mature community like WE to get their chops up.
>
> > Their community's toolkit  isn't very good, (it's newish) but they can
> > move fast, especially if you can spaek german.
>
> > Lastly, this may be of some use.http://www.internet2.edu/wg/
> > regards, simon
>
> > On May 31, 2:22 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi everyone --
>
> > > The concept of instituting work groups in WE has been around for some
> > time,
> > > as suggested, for example by User:Leutha, User:Kakamora and others.
> > > However, we don't have processes or guidelines to assist WikiEducator's
> > in
> > > forming groups that will contribute towards the collective objective of
> > > improving how we work.
>
> > > When WikiEducator was much smaller -- it was relatively easy to post a
> > > query, idea or suggestion on the main list and take a collective
> > decision.
> > > With considerable growth since January 2008 our project needs are growing
> > > rapidly  and I wonder whether WE should consider formalising a work group
> > > approach?
>
> > > In other words, should we set up a work group to develop guidelines on
> > > implementing work groups to be tabled at the first WCC meeting?
>
> > > We already have a few work groups that have formed organically.
>
> > > *Existing work groups:
> > > *
>
> > >    - A usability work group iniated by User:Kakamora -- good ideas and
> > >    intentions, but hasn't gone further (see:
> > >    http://www.wikieducator.org/Usability_Working_Group)
> > >    - A work group to talk about Learning Design (Pedagogical templates)
> > --
> > >    (see:http://www.wikieducator.org/Workgroup:Learning_design)
> > >    - Another work group is looking at the development of  an OER Policy
> > >    Briefing intended to assist with advocacy of OER among policy makers
> > --
> > >    (see:http://wikieducator.org/OER_Brief_for_policy_makers)
>
> > > Are there any other "workgroups" which I may have missed?  Peter wouldn't
> > > the volunteer group who have signed up for helping out on the Quality
> > > Assurance and Review framework also constitute a workgroup of sorts?
> > (See:http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Quality_Assurance_and_Review
> > ).
>
> > > Recent posts on the list by Nellie, Ben, Peter, Brent, Randy and Patricia
> > on
> > > the topic of communication alternatives in WE, ning.com etc suggest that
> > the
> > > work group model is possibly a good vehicle for researching these kinds
> > of
> > > questions and proposing alternatives for consideration.
>
> > > Two questions:
>
> > >    1. Should WE implement a work group approach?
> > >    2. If so, should we initiate a work group to develop a draft set of
> > >    guidelines on work groups, utimately leading to a policy on work
> > groups for
> > >    consideration by the WCC for approval.
>
> > > Cheers
> > > Wayne
>
> > > --
> > > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> > > Director,
> > > International Centre for Open Education,
> > > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> > > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org
>
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director,
> International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org
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