On Apr 9, 2:58 am, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks for this discussion its highlighted an issue for a site on WE
> that I work on a lot but has only small traffic (DE Hub). The curator
> idea is interesting, however  any limit on the availability of
> materials because they have been returned to the basement seams to me
> to run counter to the spirit of OERs. Certainly having a curating
> function that pushes out what is current an available could work
> assuming the availability of funding and resources to support the
> activity.

Exactamente, as they say here in Spain, although (on the web) it's
pretty hard to figure out which page is the basement and which is the
"front desk" a lot of the time of the time isn't it. I guess if one
wanted to pursue this line of curation inquiry, in English, you'd go
somewhere like the  http://www.dcc.ac.uk/

But I'll use my last entry as an example of how things really work in
the 'online' world. Someone asks a question and (2 weeks later)
someone throws in a piece of advice as to where someone might start.
>
>  I wish to raise an issue that at first may not seam relevant but is
> closely related and apologies if this has been raised in the past.
> I've been following this and other discussion on WE for the past few
> weeks and we seam to be making reference to OEr users without being
> particularly specific about which users. It appears to me that there a
> numerous users who will have different expectations of the OER they
> are seeking. Three that immediately come to mid are the
> "student" (looking for a structured program of study),  the "free
> wheeling student" (who wishes to compile their own learning program
> from a range of available resources) and the "teacher" (looking to
> add, supplement or build a program of study for students). Clearly
> there are many possible content cross overs between the OERs they all
> require, however it seams to me that there is not enough consideration
> given to the design of the OER to meet the needs of the different
> users. This spreads into the discussion concerning where to find OERs,
> as end user will not necessarily wish to hunt through all the
> resources that do not meet their needs. This I suggest compounds the
> issue of how to get the end user to find the right OER for their
> individual needs.
>  "Ramblings of an new oer player".
> Cheers,
> Alan Wyle

It's a good ramble Mr Wyle.
I guess I'm fortuntate (or self deceived). I always use this para to
orientate my thoughts.
http://wikieducator.org/Practice:Towards_a_new_Institution_of_Learning#Improving_collaboration_and_content_interoperability_between_mainstream_OER_projects
It means I just can't think like a teacher. I'm just a guy with a AV
(geekish) background who has been trying to understand what may happen
when the content builders', and the (research) network guys', thinking
starts to align.

NB. When i talk about research networks in Europe (Randy) I'm thinking
from this perspective, http://www.dante.net/
When I'm thinking from the other side of the atlantic I'm thinking
internet2 and canarie.

When I'm thinking ant content builders, I'm thinking about anyone who
has a preferred tool and is producing something useful. It's wikis
around here  and teleconferencing/video stuff in my preferred sandpit.
I'm mentioning teleconferencing because the change to the "commons"
paradigm means we talk about 'capturing' content, not (just) producing
it for consumption.

That said, if you follow the 'findability' arguement up it's logical
thread, then you have to ask yourself "what tools do we share on our
'commons', and who is the customer (or prosumer as it might be called
in the new learning paradigm). You'll always come back to this idea
that we need to have a 'commons' for a GLOBAL, MULTI LANGUAGE
disciplinary group, or Community of Practice).  And we (the dante
network guys) are just about to have this conversation, at a euro
level with the people who have aggregated huge repository of raw (CC)
materials. I'm pointing to their cummunity page as that's what we are
discussing = what tools do they want, and how do we create a new kind
of directory to the disciplinary (.eu) group's environments. Please
NB. The number of languages involved. Top right.

It seems overwhelming when you first attempt to make some sense out of
this. But the only way it works for me is to look at that para, forget
about teaching anything to anyone and just share my own learning,
cause I have so much to learn. Thanks Alan

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