Wayne,
As usual, you have thought out this important issue and are very thorough.
Your response is helpful to me and I appreciate your time. Yes, I find OER
very valuable and will continue to help.

Best wishes,
Gene

On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Gene,
>
> Certification and review of OER is a complex issue. That said, no more
> complex in OER than for closed-resources ;-)
>
> A couple of thoughts:
>
> 1) Merlot is not primarily a hosting repository of materials -- the
> vast majority of resources accessed through Merlot are hosted on
> external sites. So for example you  could find the OER Handbook for
> Educators on Merlot (http://www.merlot.org/merlot/viewMaterial.htm?
> id=335365 <http://www.merlot.org/merlot/viewMaterial.htm?%0Aid=335365>)
> which is hosted on WikiEducator.
>
> 2) Frankly -- Merlot's intellectual property policy is confusing. The
> site says that resources are licensed under "Creative Commons
> Licensing conditions" -- but when you read the detail (http://
> taste.merlot.org/acceptableuserpolicy.html) there are a raft of
> different conditions for different categories of users. In the case of
> WikiEducator -- we have a values-based position on licensing. We only
> use licenses which meet the free cultural works definition. In
> Creative Commons terms that means CC0, CC-BY or CC-BY-SA. Of course
> materials dedicated to the public domain are welcomed.
>
> 3) Merlot is not the only act in town in so far as being an access
> point for open access materials. The OER Commons (http://
> www.oercommons.org/) also provide search, find and rating services.
> Creative Commons have also been working on an interesting project
> called DiscoverEd (http://wiki.creativecommons.org/DiscoverEd).  An
> innovative group called Folksemantic (http://www.folksemantic.com/)
> are also working on exciting new technologies.  The issue is, that in
> the case of OER -- it doesn't matter where the resource are hosted.
> From the OER Foundation's perspective we encourage all OER developers
> to use open content licenses and free file formats as the building
> blocks for a sustainable OER ecosystem.
>
> 4) In my personal view -- certification and credentialing is not the
> function of OER per se -- that's what education institutions should be
> doing. Education institutions are free to choose the learning
> materials they prescribe or recommend for their students (both closed
> and open materials.) So for example, WikiEducator hosts a number of
> course materials where students can obtain certifications from the
> institutions that teach these OER courses.  I also look forward to
> seeing Joyce's thoughts on recognition of prior learning where
> institutions can assess learning experience gained from free and open
> OER courses hosted on WikiEducator and other open projects like P2PU,
> Wikiversity etc.
>
> 5) WE need to get better at providing users the opportunity to rate
> and rank materials developed and hosted in WE. We are exploring
> alternatives that will scale and work well in the formal education
> sector.
>
> Above all -- I think the most important value for WE to endorse and
> promote is the freedom to create. That means giving all educators in
> the world the permission to create and reuse learning materials for
> their purpose. While the formal sector rightly places strong emphasis
> on peer review, credentials etc -- we must be wary of using this as an
> excuse to restrict permissions and the freedoms of individuals to
> create their own teaching materials. In the same breath, we should
> also be creative in finding effective ways for the community to rate
> quality without imposing restrictions on the creation process.
>
> WE're making good progress - one step at a time. With your help and
> support - we're going to get better :-)
>
> Cheers
> Wayne
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2:36 pm, gene loeb <genel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think it will be appropriate to initiate a certifying body and
> reviewers
> > if tht is not already done the reviews like being Merlot.
> > Just a thought.
> > Gene
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Carina <carina.bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> >
> > > I'm currently compiling some information about the development of
> > > OERs, which will be available on WikiEducator shortly for those who
> > > wish to comment on and add to it. But, I wonder if you know any
> > > program/institution/organisation at a tertiary level that offers
> > > credentials or certification for courses/units or modules that are
> > > OERs.
> >
> > > There are some free courses available on the Internet (e.g.
> > >http://alison.com/course/), but I’m not sure if they are OERs.
> >
> > > Your thoughts and comments on this issue are much appreciated.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Carina
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