Hi Simon, The shift we are propagating with the OERu concept is for universities to take back control of the IP which should rightfully be theirs, but license this under free cultural works approved licenses.
You're right that, there is not necessarily the need for a professional reporter between the live event and report. However, the matter is not as simple as filming a conference presentation and asserting copyright on the recording. In many civil law countries, there is not necessarily a requirement for the creative work to be in a fixed format. In these countries, copyright protection will take place from the moment the performance is given, defaults to all rights reserved and therefore legally cannot filmed in a way where the person pointing the camera gets copyright. Typically the professional media are afforded certain privileges when reporting live events in their respective national copyright legislations. The problem we have in a digital age is that there is no requirement to assert copyright and it defaults to all rights reserved. In a digital age, the scenario should be reversed - -eg the default should be public domain, but if you want to assert copyright, you would be required to do so. We don't have this -- hence the work of projects like WE, OERu etc. I'm not sure that many universities would necessarily agree with your assertions that they are all about teaching. Many institutions invest considerable time, energy and dollars into the learning part of the equation. While there are many opportunities to learn on the open web -- a university credential still carries token value by society and the economy. It gets people real jobs in the real world. That's not to say the folk don't learn in "informal" settings. For example, the best free software coders out there have earned their stripes through a system of meritocracy in their respective communities. There are many exciting learning projects like the DIY U and P2PU projects which are pushing the envelope. This must be encouraged because it adds considerable value to the OER ecosystem. However the focus of WE, the OER Foundation, the OERu is to see how we in the formal sector can add value to this evolving ecosystem. WE must recognise our limitations and core competencies. WE are predominantly a formal education sector initiative working in the OER space. That's what we do well and where we focus our energies. Cheers Wayne On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:13 PM, simonfj <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Wayne, > > You know I'm not sure if you realize that you keep pointing at the > obvious problem every uni has; "sorry we don't control the IP of > external publishers". It's not "external publishers" IP of course. It > belongs to the people who (in this case, are trying to encourage) unis > to "open their minds". > > Uni researchers (in particular) must pay, via their institutional > librarians, to access the aggregations of publishers, which are, after > all, simply convenient databases of different unis' authors put > together on some global basis by a publisher. It's not as though (with > all the technology inside NRENs) they are necessary. Even the peer > review is usually done by an author's global mates. Publishers simply > take advantage of the unis' lack of imagination. > > Anyone these days can open up any closed situation by taking a > handycam and computer (with wireless access) along, or even just blog > a conference. So WE know there's simply no need to have a reporter > between "the live" and "the report". That's why the commercial media > news comes to us via five global gateways these days. (AAP, Reuters, > Thomson, etc). It's the only profitable way of wrapping advertising > around "the content". (which is there to separate the ads) Publicly > funded media is just having a hard time reinventing itself. > > Ultimately, WE all just want a place in fixed cyberspace (a url) where > we know "our disciplinary/subject specific mates get together for a > natter or a conference; where anything which is covered by a > particular global group can be streamed live as well as preserved for > the long term. And if WE do it sociably, the "space" is bound to > attract a global community of interest. QED = WE. The need for a > directory is obvious. But professional curators and professional > network managers are simply too busy to actually concentrate "their" > users. > > So let's admit to ourselves that this has nothing to do with "unis > being open minded". Even if such a stupid comment could be understood > - unis don't think, the people inside them do - we already know that > they are open minded. WE prove that. The problem is simply that WE > don't aggregate "our content" on the basis of "our" global group. It's > still about trying to gain credibility by saying. "I come from xxx > institution." And new institution never begins like that. > N.B Where institution has this meaning. > http://orweblog.oclc.org/archives/002154.html > > WE should also keep in mind that many uni students, after they have > been handed a piece of paper by their uni, go back to their video > games and employment queue. The number is 40% in south europe, and > rising. Few have curricula which can keep up with the demand for new > skills and techniques. E.g. No uni runs a course for employment > network design. That's done by companies like Cisco who are > reinventing technology daily. So the old .edu institutions are > becoming less relevant. > > From what I can see, very few edu institutions focus on "the > learning". It's all about "teaching" - and the two are opposite poles. > One's done in classroom, the other in a library. No guesses for which > one is (done in) which. > > > > On Mar 15, 8:53 am, Wayne Mackintosh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > More international coverage on the OER university. > > > > Following Sir John's keynote address in Sydney on 8 March where he > referred > > to the OER university <http://wikieducator.org/OER_university/Home> as > > making the original "examination only" concept look extremely modern and > a > > system that would reduce the cost of higher education dramatically (see: > http://www.col.org/resources/speeches/2011presentation/Pages/2011-03-...), > > the Campus Review, Australia has published the following article: > > > > Universities need to open minds on digital learning and > > teaching< > http://www.campusreview.com.au/pages/section/article.php?s=News&idArt...> > > . > > > > (Unfortunately to read the article -- you will need to register for a > free > > online trial of Campus Review -- sorry we don't control the IP of > external > > publishers.) > > > > Cheers > > Wayne > > -- > > Wayne Mackintosh <http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg>, Ph.D. > > Director OER Foundation <http://www.oerfoundation.org> > > Director, International Centre for Open Education, > > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > > Founder and elected Community Council Member, > > WikiEducator<http://www.wikieducator.org> > > Mobile+64 21 2436 380begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +64 21 > 2436 380 end_of_the_skype_highlighting > > Skype: WGMNZ1 > > Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg> | > > identi.ca<http://identi.ca/waynemackintosh> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] -- Wayne Mackintosh <http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg>, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation <http://www.oerfoundation.org> Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. 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