Yes, Free as in Beer, not as in Speech. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 19:21, simonfj <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wayne, > > You're right. It doesn't have a GNU/linux client yet. > If you know of any "complete solutions" that does, or might have in > the next couple of years, I'd love to know. (please) > N.B. The vucast functionality is important. > > The talk about OS solutions go on. This recent cross-Atlantic get > together is probably the closest we'll get to it for another few > years. http://www.terena.org/activities/media/meeting4/programme.html > (Matterhorn being the highest mountain to climb. Big Blue Button > functionality being a while off.) > > I'm suggesting vivu as > 1. it's (should be) free. (to a few global communities long term = to > be negotiated) > 2. It works as an extension of Skype (so it should be pretty intuitive > to use). > 3. The recordings won't require a user to download a player. (until > html5 gets traction, and no player is required) > 4. Aarnet have a relationship with them. > > In all of this kind of development, the front end isn't really that > important. aarnet already have had talks abut using an "off the shelf > & open" client, along with quite a few other NRENs; independently of > course. They don't collaborate on one client (or backend) because none > of their user communities (except the big boys like the astro-physics > communities) are big enough, and don't talk to their National > engineers as a global group. > > The main costs here are bandwidth usage, and that's a mess at the > moment because NREN engineers spend most of their time talking to > "their" National clients. So when WE talk across borders, the routing > between networks is always "off net". > http://www.infocellar.com/networks/Switched/onnet-vs-offnet.htm > i.e. It costs money in both directions (and glitches are common). > > My only interest here is finding a solution which, if it's picked up > and used regularly by a few global groups, will enable my mates at > aarnet to talk to their global mates about reconfiguring their pipes. > i.e. WE's inter-NREN usage and storage becomes "on net". > > The other consideration here is offering a "fixed" room. i.e. WE would > have a virtual room/(streaming) channel, and its archive, that has a > fixed position (a fixed url) in cyberspace (not necessarily at > vivu.tv), which hopefully they would want to share between time zones > and (at times) with other communities like P2P uni. It's a bit hard to > follow things at the moment when WE et al spread everything around so > many urls and tools. > > Of course, if, as you say "many WE users have Linux (as their client's > operating system)", then I guess we can't even consider this approach. > But it is an attempt to offer a stop gap for the next few years. And > so long as it's free, (and i can come up with a business case for Vivu > that keeps it that way) it's helps to get the NREN engineers to focus. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]
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