Thanks Wayne,

> Nope, I don't agree here -- the longer you perpetuate access to non-free
> content (by making sure that non-free content doesn't disappear), the longer
> we fuel the monopoly of switches in the network which regulates access and
> price to knowledge which should remain free.

I had to think through this one although I know I don't have your
perspective. I don't get the "switches". All I see is the move from
publishers doing the aggregating & distribution to a collaborative way
of publishing. We should have ideals like " ..only use OER content
which can be copied or remixed". But this transition will take time.
It's dependent on understanding what drives people to collaborate, and
providing them with the tools and rewards which will encourage them to
change their habits.

If we focus on your main point - publically paying once for
researchers to do the research, then to have it peer reviewed, then
paying again for buying an aggregation back from a third part
publisher - then Open Access Journal initiatives display an ideal.

You're aware that most countries have had a go at (i.e. paid for)
projects like ARROW. http://arrow.edu.au/about/
You've got a better knowledge than I have of http://cnx.org/aboutus/
type initiatives
If you want an idea of how this looks in Australia at the moment;
check out the latest (july) ands newsletter. 
http://ands.org.au/newsletters/index.html
Page 1 has a diagram of "the Australian Research Data Commons" which
illustrates the problem. i.e. The circle around the institution.

The problem for all of these kind of initiatives comes down to one
simple factor. "Unfortunately, the archiving policies are often
ignored by researchers". 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review#Different_styles_of_review
As one of my correspondents from a French uni's library put it. "The
question remains to know who does the indexing work: librarians and/or
teachers (or researchers)". He goes on to say "Indexing has to be made
with a very different view".

So we have a peculiar disconnect. Within the confines of a National
institution, everyone tries to index "Institutional" resources. Then
when outside, they classify by "discipline". We can measure the impact
of these two approaches today. http://repositories.webometrics.info/toprep.asp

It's so nice that these two conversations happened on this one thread.
All these problems started when timmy BL joined the hypertext world
(which was institutional centric) to the transmission control
protocol. Then he said "we need a "domain name" for "participating
entities." Good idea. But I'll never forgive him for not insisting on
a policy which said "no existing institutions are allowed to use their
names as a domain". He didn't, so their inhabitants still can't think
outside their squares. Their duplications are endless and their inter-
institutional collaborations last as long as a short-term project's
funds.

Imagine if he said; "participating entities can only be local/national/
global peer groups" and then went one further - in the .edu domains we
will classify each group as we would classify their journals/teaching
materials in a library. i.e. discipline. At least we might have had a
few people from the local unis and schools talking to one another.

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