Hi Wayne (my dear overworked friend).

For what it's worth, I had to say congrats too. It's been quite a journey 
watching what you and the team have achieved over the past (what is it?) 4 
years. 

I was a bit disappointed about the TRU video recordings. Hoped I would get 
some feel for this meet, which was as good as the first. No biggie. It's 
just, as always, I consider the back end more important than the front. And 
I won't repeat myself apart from to say "OERu has a great culture". That's 
more important than anything.

So I've just picked up on the suggestion about the eu sub 
group<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/oer-university/WkiFd1-n0bM>.
 
It seems about time that we might take another step if we can get some 
collaboration happening between a few communities. So can we work though a 
strategy for the EU (project) and beyond. I'd like to introduce you into 
the M&L community. In fact I already have. You might want to correct me if 
I've made a mistake about you in my last comment on this 
thread<http://lnkd.in/bGhbX-P>. 
Sally's "the man" for the M&L community, and she has a nice team. Gotta 
conference coming up soon. You won't know the EC personalities. Let's just 
say the M&L community is inside the Brussels' bubble.

It's a bit more comfortable for me than OERu, primarily because it crosses 
into media (networks). Both broadcast and interactive. You know i bang on 
about *infrastructure*, which people in the edu industry rarely get because 
they think they are in the business of teaching, and all the changes happen 
outside the unis. Can't train people to do a job before it, or its tools, 
exist. All online educators are going though the search for a global 
collaborative infrastructure, so regardless of what banner one uses. the 
ends in the mind of OERu and M&L communities, and quite a few others, are 
identical. Collaboration anyone?

So apart from pushing the OERu barrow, and getting a few, or lot more unis, 
into the fold, any EU sponsored project needs a few courses which every 
educator/bureaucrat.ec will want/needs to do. And Antonio, who can see the 
market needed to be developed, latched onto one <http://lnkd.in/bwJFFFK>. 
Apart from that you know I have my discussions, about what global 
infrastructure OERuers and M&Lers. etc might want, with the NREN guys, who 
in Europe come together around an association called terena. So they'd need 
to be involved in this network development as well. OERu is the customer, 
so members will need to agree on their wish list (for the collaborative 
tools they'd want) . 

OK. Enough for now. Just thought I'd drop the idea on you. Brian's right; 
the EC pennies are there. But we'll need some agreement on how the OERu is 
going to be sustainable, and that depends on the new jobs which they'd be 
preparing (students) for. Can't see that being much of a prob, although as 
I've said before, the OERu *back end* is more valuable than the front, so 
long its members get hard nosed in defining the learning 
environment/collaborative tools they want. You don't push media products 
these days. You include co-producers. But that's just a media guy talking (just 
like all the other media 
guy<http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulmagnone/2013/06/22/4-big-data-trends-that-change-everything/>
s).

Congrats again. si


Bottom line 

On Monday, 4 November 2013 05:04:22 UTC+7, gene wrote:
>
> Wayne,
> It certainly was exciting and thanks for your effort, but the continual 
> effort of many persons wordwide, trying new theories not possible just a 
> few years abgo made it great and notable. The way the OERU is being 
> constructed is to use structures that traditional education uses, such as 
> accredidation, aong with the open and sharing theme. 
>
> My concern is that the knowledge of it is too limited. For example, I live 
> in the United States, with it's fractionalized educational system, and 
> knowledge of oeru is unknown in many areas. I help to publicize it but hope 
> that in practice and with United States college members, recognition of 
> OERU will gain. Meanwhile, the companies that are getting courses from 
> major universities such as Harvard and Stanford, still don't know what to 
> do with them.  OERU, with its thoughtful, planned approach is greatly 
> needed.
>
> Thanks,
> Gene
> Gene Loeb, Ph.D.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Wayne Mackintosh 
> <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> A reason for open educations to celebrate! We were honoured to have Sir 
>> John Daniel launch the the OERu website <http://oeruniversity.org/> on 1 
>> November 2013.   
>>
>> Its been a busy few days of implementation planning and OERu meetings 
>> will continue this week. Thank you to all members of the community and 
>> virtual participants during the 2nd meeting of OERu anchor 
>> partners<http://wikieducator.org/OER_university/OERu_13.10_Meeting/Agenda>  
>> who have contributed to turning the vision of the OERu into reality.
>>
>> Below, a few of the related media links.
>>
>>
>>    - Free Open Learning University Launches at 
>> TRU<http://www.cfjctv.com/story.php?id=16683>, 
>>    CFJC TV, Kamloops, 1 November 2013.
>>    - TRU joins free education 
>> movement<http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/20131101/KAMLOOPS0101/131109988/-1/kamloops0101/tru-joins-free-education-movement>.Online
>>  
>>    university combines resources from around the world. The Daily New, 
>>    Kamloops, 1 November 2013.
>>    - Open Educational Resource university is 
>> launched<http://www.universityworldnews.com/article.php?story=20131101093532252>,
>>  
>>    University World News, 1 November 2013.
>>    - The free university launching in 
>> NZ<http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfast-news/free-university-launching-in-nz-video-5664752>.
>>  
>>    TVNZ Breakfast, 2013 
>>    - The launch of OERu: Towards free learning opportunities for all 
>>    students 
>> worldwide<http://bccampus.ca/2013/10/31/the-launch-of-oeru-towards-free-learning-opportunities-for-all-students-worldwide/>,
>>  
>>    BCcampus, 31 October 2013. 
>>    - Mooc rival OERu puts accreditation on 
>> menu<http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/mooc-rival-oeru-puts-accreditation-on-menu/2008571.article>,
>>  
>>    Times Higher Education, 31 October 2013.
>>    - Polytech opens a door to the 
>> world<http://www.odt.co.nz/campus/otago-polytechnic/278697/polytech-opens-door-world>,
>>  
>>    Otago Daily Times, 26 October 2013.
>>    - Open Educational Resource university to be launched 
>> worldwide<http://wikieducator.org/Open_Educational_Resource_university_to_be_launched_worldwide>,
>>  
>>    25 October, 2013.
>>    
>>
>>
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>> Wayne Mackintosh <http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg>, Ph.D. 
>> Director OER Foundation <http://www.oerfoundation.org>
>> Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic
>> UNESCO-COL Chair in OER, Otago Polytechnic & OER Foundation
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