On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Erik Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm sorry for being behind the curve on this, but could someone point >> me to a discussion or policy explaining when & why the requirement to >> be autoconfirmed in order to upload files was created? Doesn't this >> just shift whatever problem it tries to solve to Commons, which >> doesn't have that restriction? > > I don't know and can not find where it was decided to include upload > in auto-confirmed, but I do remember complaining about it previously > when the criteria for auto-confirmed status was extended. > > Search for 'upload': > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed_Proposal/Poll2 > > At the time new users got a completely unhelpful permission denied > response from the software, at least now you get a wall of text which > somewhere has a link to commons. > > The benefit that some people tried to convince me of is that this > policy effectively restricts the addition of images which are not > freely licensed to established users. I'm not convinced that this is > especially beneficial, and I suspect the added complexity of uploading > to commons probably costs us contributions enough to offset whatever > benefit the current behaviour brings. > > I'd rather see a more nuanced quarantine and approval process to deal > with the low quality of submissions by new users. .. or, at least make > the upload button go straight to commons for users who can't use it > locally to cut out the extra chances for confusion. > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >
Making the upload button go straight to Commons would create a lot of problems there, as nonfree content that would be legitimate on Wikipedia would be routed there and subsequently deleted, creating headaches for them and confusion for the uploader. I think an approval process might work, though there's certainly nothing stopping anyone from saying "There's an image at [link here] that I believe could legitimately be used in [[article]], could you please have a look and upload it if you agree?" -- Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
