And since there is no effective means of community wide discussion,
and after that, there is no means to determine that consensus has been
reached, with a community so ill defined, we have a problem with
consensus.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:38 PM, White Cat
<[email protected]> wrote:
> By "community consensus" I mean the result of "community wide discussion".
> Community consensus does not mean a discrete discussions by an elite number
> of editors in some hidden sub project page no one cares about.
>  - White Cat
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Martijn Hoekstra <[email protected]
>> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Marc Riddell
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> on 1/13/09 2:33 AM, White Cat at [email protected] wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In other words there is a lack of consensus. Meaning no mass action of
>> any
>> >> kind should be taken until a consensus is secured.
>> >>
>> > On any given subject within the Project, how does someone go about
>> achieving
>> > consensus? And how and when do you determine that a consensus has been
>> > reached?
>> >
>> > Marc Riddell
>> >
>> >
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>> I have been trying to write an essay on that for ages on that: see
>> [[WP:TINCON]]
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