On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh, and discussion closed by someone who participated. Just as an aside. > > Risker > > 2009/4/11 George Herbert <[email protected]> > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Ron Ritzman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:18 PM, doc <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Al Tally wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Ron Ritzman <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Proposal_to_change_the_length_of_deletion_discussions_to_7_days > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> I wonder when the plan to inform the community was? It might seem > like > > a > > > >> minor change, but it's a significant one. AFD/VFD has been 5 days > > since, > > > >> what, when it was created? It's a fairly entrenched system. > Pointless > > in > > > my > > > >> view to extend by 2 days. People will simply not remember what > they've > > > been > > > >> practising for years. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Wow. Where was this advertised? I missed it. > > > > > > > > AdD really does seem a law unto itself. Is 45 people supporting this > > > > change really enough? > > > > > > The same can be asked for any proposed policy change. Considering the > > > current size of the project I don't think it's possible to involve > > > enough of the community in any such discussion no matter how it's > > > announced. Remember the spoiler thing a few years ago? Most editors > > > had no clue about the change until spoiler tags were being mass AWBed > > > out of articles. > > > > > > Pointers on AN? The policies part of the village pump? > > > > If it was there and I missed it, my bad. If there wasn't anything > there... >
I am not particularly concerned by the closing administrator not being neutral - he read the tea leaves in the poll results fairly, and the results seemed fairly unambiguous (3:1 support for extension). I am however concerned that nobody had posted pointers out anywhere. I went back through AN and Village Pump archives and found nothing. With that in mind, I started this notice on AN: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Articles_for_Deletion_time_extended_to_7_days If there are any significant objections, I recommend a new thread on the AFD talk page to reopen and revisit the issue, with more visibility to others in the project. On reflection, I do not myself find that I object to the results of this, so I'm not going to file an objection myself. However, I believe we need to make fair notifications more widely, and offer a chance for objections from the wider crowd before this is settled and done. I have in the past and still today object to side-room actions to change policy without wider discussion and attention. We can get ourselves in a lot of trouble just by not noticing something, even if all the key players watchlist all the key policies. -- -george william herbert [email protected] _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
