On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Ken Arromdee <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, David Gerard wrote: > > I was thinking more "where's the catch?" I still can't see one. A > > lollipop for each catch anyone can spot! > > Some catches: > > 1) Glosses over how you reconcile the conflict of interest policy and > allowing > people to fix their own biographies. > > 2) It gives a cursory, vague, reference to human dignity, but in general it > emphasises accuracy and verifiability too much. Some BLP problems aren't > really about that, and painting them as such is trying to fit a square peg > into a round hole. Privacy problems aren't about either one. Undue weight > problems *could* be called accuracy, but that gives the wrong impression. > Someone who shares a name with a child molester and finds Wikipedia the > first > Google hit for his name can't really complain about accuracy or > verifiability. > And this doesn't even touch the issue of what to do with information is > verifiable but false. > > 3) And then there's this: > # Treating any person who has a complaint about how they are described > # in our projects with patience, kindness, and respect, and encouraging > # others to do the same. > The problem here, as with so many things in Wikipedia, is that Wikipedia > is set up so that in a conflict where some of us want to use a rule and > some > want to use human judgment, the rule wins. If someone who complains > ends up violating a rule, it doesn't matter how many times we say he > needs to be listened to with patience, kindness, and support; he'll > probably > get treated as a rule violator. I'm going to put forwards a theory... I think that this is the Foundation basically saying in as neutral a way possible "The underlying idea behind the Enwiki BLP policy is good and should be a standard throughout WMF projects". I think this is NOT an attempt to interject "Enwiki BLP sucks and needs to be enhanced/changed/warped" I think that the problems we're having with Enwiki BLP emphasize how problematic it is to determine a right solution and how to enforce it. The Foundation can acknowledge that, and ask that other projects begin to unversally adopt the concept, while accepting that we have a ways to go before the policy is perfect. -- -george william herbert [email protected] _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
