Thank you. After the unpleasant experience I went through, I wonder if there are other people caught as collateral victims in this paid editing roundup. Something needs to be done to prevent this. Plus that, generally, I find the whole roundup process not addressing the issue of paid editing, just an unproductive way to produce new heroes and villains.
Desiphral On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Fred Bauder <[email protected]> wrote: > OK, I'll unblock you, and save you a step in the appeals process, to > unblock-en-l. I can see several things going on, some cultural. There is > no evidence in recent edits, checked by checkuser, that there is any > editing by others or for pay. In other words, this user has, other than > impudently disclosed information about events in the past, done nothing. > > Fred Bauder > > > > I agreed as I knew about it, I said "they will stay away from it" > > (without > > knowing about this policy, just for avoiding accusations of association) > > and > > I changed my password. If it's about the present tense of "I do not let > > 'arbitrary' people use my account, even less spammers", it was as a reply > > to > > the present tense of the previous text of Rspeer, considering that they > > talk > > about what happened in the past. Then I continued to describe what > > happened > > in the past and how they did what they wanted by themselves. The present > > had > > no relevance for me, since I did not edit on Wikipedia for a lot of time > > and, as far as I can foresee, I don't have plans to edit in the near > > future. > > > > > > Plus that, anyway, with my knowledge of English, not letting arbitrary > > people does not imply automatically letting specific people (as one > > derived > > a conclusion). > > > > Deiphral > > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Fred Bauder > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> > Put simply, because there was an ongoing issue with a compromised > >> > account. A user was allowing other people to share his account, and > >> had > >> > not agreed to stop doing this. That is an ongoing problem and rightly > >> > deserved a block. > >> > > >> > Of course if the user later agreed to stop doing this, the rationale > >> > might not still apply. > >> > >> There is still a problem: He still has friends; there is probably still > >> only one computer; and his friends may be interested in writing > >> Wikipedia > >> accounts for hire, a legal activity, as he points out. We might have to > >> sort some of this stuff out. I think we can. > >> > >> Fred > >> > >> > > >> > ----- "Nathan" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> From: "Nathan" <[email protected]> > >> >> To: "English Wikipedia" <[email protected]> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 18:51:45 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, > >> Ireland, > >> >> Portugal > >> >> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] The current purges in English Wikipedia > >> (...and > >> >> my personal case) > >> >> > >> >> I'm not sure how blocking someone for conduct admitted from "some > >> years > >> >> ago", that doesn't appear to have hurt anyone or caused any > >> disruption, > >> >> is > >> >> "the right thing to do." That's like saying "You violated 3RR in > >> 2004, > >> >> I'm > >> >> blocking you for 24 hours. If you wish to be unblocked, admit your > >> >> guilt and > >> >> promise never to edit-war again." It's not bad advice for someone > >> who > >> >> wants > >> >> to be unblocked, given human nature, but it shouldn't be necessary. > >> >> Nathan > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> WikiEN-l mailing list > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > WikiEN-l mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WikiEN-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
