FT2, why not do a proper analysis of a week or two weeks of requests at the admin and other noticeboards, to get some concrete figures, and not just a general feeling?
Carcharoth On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:26 PM, FT2<[email protected]> wrote: > I wouldn't be so quick to call it nuisance. We have thousands of active > users, hundreds of thousands of occasional users, and a wide range of > warriors, promoters, and people who don't get the plot (or would rather not > do so). There's a very wide range of reasons someone might want an > administrator to help, and most users aren't admins. > > There will be a constant flow of misplaced, bad faith or confused requests, > but many of those may yet have a fair right to be asked. > > Far more so, there is a far larger flow of completely legitimate and > reasonable requests for admin help. I wouldn't call it "nuisance", as if > it's just an undesirable annoyance. Its a result of being the size of the > user base that even a tiny proportion validly seeking admin help might add > up to hundreds a day. > > FT2 > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David Goodman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> People need a single main point of contact for problems; If we removed >> AN/I, then the confused complaints would come to AN. If we could keep >> all the miscellaneous nuisance contained within AN/I, that would be >> helpful, large as it might get. >> >> The various specific boards for reporting problems, SPI in particular, >> are more apt to confuse new people than guide them in the right >> direction >> >> On 7/23/09, Alex Sawczynec <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Probably due in no small part to the fact that AN is the official >> > "administrator's board," while ANI is the incidents board, the "i'm >> telling >> > on you" board where any user can report any perceived threats. Just tends >> to >> > lead to more outrageous, drama-inducing posts, I'd wager. >> > >> > - GlassCobra >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:34 AM, FT2 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Some off-wiki response-seeking... >> >> >> >> A couple of comments at the administrator's noticeboard (AN) about the >> >> quality of ANI discussion have led to a short post on-wiki asking for >> >> perceptions: >> >> >> >> A user's suggested in passing in an AN discussion, that they feel there >> >> can >> >> be issues at ANI: >> >> >> >> >> >> - *"For whatever reason, discussions at WP:AN seem to be a little more >> >> calm and rational than ANI"* >> >> - *"ANI is a bit like throwing chum into a pool of sharks. It's >> just >> >> the mentality there"* >> >> - *"AN doesn't seem to attract as many drama seekers [as ANI]"* >> >> >> >> Quick feedback: some truth to it? A lot? Not much? >> >> >> >> A simple request for thoughts. >> >> >> >> Since ANI and VP tend to be followed by more experienced users and >> admins, >> >> I'm posting it on the en mailing list to increase the exposure and odds >> of >> >> feedback being given from non-admins. >> >> Link to on-wiki >> >> post< >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators'_noticeboard#ANI_curiosity >> < >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#ANI_curiosity >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> FT2 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WikiEN-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > >> >> >> -- >> David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
