> It's a basic reality of life as an adult that employees with perfect > work product but terrible attitudes are often terminated; their own > work is fine, but their presence disrupts the work of others.
I agree. I sincerely believe that civility blocks are necessary. Not as a punishment, or a chance to "cool down", but as a way to say "Your attitude is disrupting Wikipedia, and preventing it from improving. Come back in [12/24 hours/a week/a month/whatever] and we'll give you another chance, and not many more." Emily On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Nathan wrote: > It's interesting that Marc assigns the blame for the myriad conduct > problems > to leadership (the executive suite, though I'm not sure who this > represents). I might argue the opposite. The lack of leadership > makes it > impossible to maintain consistent standards of behavior. The > amorphous and > unstable crowd can't consistently agree either on what these > standards are > or how they should be enforced. > > It's a basic reality of life as an adult that employees with perfect > work > product but terrible attitudes are often terminated; their own work > is fine, > but their presence disrupts the work of others. Yet firm behavioral > expectations and consistent enforcement are made possible by stable > leadership. This is an obvious concept proven by thousands of years > of human > history, but Wikipedia is committed to an approach closer to > anarchy. What > we need, then, is a solution that provides for fair and consistent > enforcement of fair and consistent standards in a community that > lacks any > normal facets of social stability. > > Unfortunately, people far brighter than I have been ruminating on this > problem for years without arriving at such a solution. Perhaps the > most > credible proposals involve a reorganization of the decision making > processes > on Wikipedia, but these have all been shot down by some of the same > people > who complain most strenuously about cultural degradation. Until > folks come > up with more than complaints and minor tweaks to existing policies, > I think > its unlikely that significant progress is possible. > > Nathan > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
