I'll bite. It's an ad-hoc way of finding out if there's something wrong. Those who feel strongly, mostly those who got annoyed by someone biting them are going to respond. The majority perhaps, who don't feel one way or the other, won't. If 10% of the population leaves every month because they got bit, do 10% new members show up every month? It's seems rather unscientific for such a group of eggheads to depend on a survey of this sort to determine that a problem actually exists that is worth trying to fix.
On another note, "fixing" civility problems more than they are already fixed (i.e. policy and action) sounds a bit like someone is proposing a stronger policy that may end up biting even more. I am an aggressive argumentalist and some take that to be insulting. But being aggressive is not the same as being uncivil. <<On the point of a consensus that there are problems - is there anyone who disagrees, strongly, with the thesis that we have civility problems?>> -----Original Message----- From: George Herbert <[email protected]> To: English Wikipedia <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Aug 12, 2009 12:59 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Marc Riddell<[email protected]> wrote: > >> 2009/8/12 Emily Monroe <[email protected]>: >> >>> Marc IS participating in discussion here, so I don't see how the above >>> statement applies to him. >> >> >> Mostly his habit of complaining on mailing lists and actively refusing >> to engage on the wiki itself, where decisions about the wiki are >> actually made. They aren't made here. >> >> > David, you "lead" not only by insinuation, but by deception. The Mailing > Lists are the medium I choose to use. I am not looking for decisions to be > made here, merely a consensus that there are, indeed, problems. Marc, I understand your frustration, but the word "deception" and your butting heads with David (who is unfortunately rather agreeably butting back, as he is wont to do (shame, David)) were at least unfortunate choices of words and could be considered uncivil. On the point of a consensus that there are problems - is there anyone who disagrees, strongly, with the thesis that we have civility problems? -- -george william herbert [email protected] _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
