I'm happy with the idea of provisional adminship, as I think that could be a solution to several problems. I would also welcome some sort of jury system for decisions likely to be contentious (though I don't see hou you would identify those more effectively than the current arrangements of posting things on AN/I). My comments were in response to the idea of replacing admins with juries to delete attack pages and block vandals.
WereSpielChequers On 24 August 2010 15:41, Carcharoth <[email protected]> wrote: > All those concerns are addressed by the idea I proposed where people > can do temporary admin actions (obviously this ability would be > swiftly taken away if abused) that are later confirmed or reversed by > a "full" admin. I think the overhead would be worth it, along with > some real metrics to judge people by when they run at RFA for the full > flag. The problem is finding a developer to: (a) say whether it is > feasible; and (b) to actually write the changes needed, including the > code for making these "temporary" admin actions appear in a separate > log (with the logs capable of being suppressed if needed as with any > logs) and only appearing in the permanent logs if approved. If > reversed, the actions would probably look like "suppressed" actions. > Obviously, the details would need working on, but now that suppression > and revdel is at a more mature stage, it shouldn't be too hard to > adapt the code to this sort of purpose (though obviously with a > different name and so on). > > Carcharoth > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM, WereSpielChequers > <[email protected]> wrote: >> I appreciate that your suggestion is not to have admins. But aside >> from the issue that juries will be slower and less efficient than the >> current system for dealing with attack pages, what is the error rate >> for admin deletion of attack pages and blocking of vandalism only >> accounts? There are areas where admin decisions are sometimes >> challenged or contentious, but in my experience the deletion of attack >> pages and the blocking of vandalism only accounts rarely if ever >> involves admin errors. So this proposal would replace a system that >> works well with one that at best would achieve comparable results but >> more slowly and less efficiently. >> >> As for blanking attack pages, yes patrollers can and do do this. But >> that doesn't stop people cyber bullying by emailing a diff of the >> attack page, nor does it help when as so often happens the name of the >> attack page is itself an attack. >> >> WereSpielChequers >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
