I agree the names should be in the articles as well (if the mountains have two well-known names in different languages), but in terms of people finding the articles, a redirect will perform that function just as well. Though it is confusing to readers to follow a redirect and fail to find the name in the text of the destination article.
Carcharoth On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Mike Dupont <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Fred Bauder <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I would like to point out that the "List of mountains in Serbia" and >>> "List of mountains in Kosovo" are again POV forks. They contain the >>> same data in different levels of quality. Additionally, the editors >>> refused to include to albanian names so that we can even find the >>> article. This is a problem with the wikipedia to allow such confusing >>> things to happen. >>> >>> People don't care if some editor recognizes kosovo or not, they just >>> want to know where the mountain is so they can go hiking or whatever. >>> we cannot allow every list to be a POV fork. >>> >>> Either we define the individual mountains as templates to be included >>> by both pages, or we include the kosovo list as a separate list on the >>> serbian list, or we remove the kosovo list items from the serbian >>> lists. >>> >>> We cannot have two lists of everything that have two POVs. >>> >>> thanks, >>> mike >> >> Even if we do have two lists, both names should be on both lists. > > OK, but you do agree that it is against policy to have two lists of > the same content. > > Serbia removed kosovo from the list of towns places in kosovo. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities,_towns_and_villages_in_Serbia > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_settlements_in_Serbia_%28alphabetic%29 > > They removed montengro from the list of mountains of serbia and montenegro. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Serbia_and_Montenegro > > They are holding on the mountains of Kosovo, well after studying the > list, if they lose them, they will lose a lot of big mountains. I > guess it is an emotional issue of clinging, and I am prepared to leave > it for now, but my readings of the policy of wikipedia, it is clearly > a POV fork. > > there are more of them to be found, and if we accept that, then it > will encourage even more forks in the future. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_place_names_in_Serbia > > we can also make a list of Albanian place names in Serbia, list of > Albanian Mountain names in Serbia etc etc. > That might be the solution to the problem, at least they will be > found, which is my current problem, I just cannot find the articles > given the local names. > > thanks, > mike > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
