On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Marc Riddell <[email protected]> wrote: >[...] > The problem of abusive, combative, counter-productive behavior between (and > among) persons in the Project is not going to be solved with new rules or > policies - but by example. [...]
Agreed, but it's not just that simple. We have numerous good examples already. You, Fred Bauder, Brad, a few others are shining examples, and there are plenty of good ones. The problem is that humans are much more attentive to negative interactions than positive. We can have 10 incidents on ANI which were resolved politely and constructively, and then the one thing that someone was rude about blows up and gets 10x more contributions and fighting over it than the other 10 combined. Little bits of abuse multiply and take over. We need people not to start abusive behavior. We also need to develop social and policy mechanisms to defuse abusive situations. The ultimate endpoint is that Arbcom needs to be willing to step in for serious long term bad ones - particularly with admins. Arbcom can't help with the social and policy mechanisms to defuse abusive situations, no. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't work their end of it. Even if we all acknowledge that those are a hard problem, and may be really difficult to actually resolve, the elements of this that can be resolved in some way should be worked on. -- -george william herbert [email protected] _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
