Well, there are articles that can be expanded beyond the basic stuff found in places like Who's Who. An example is the article here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Mestel But as soon as anyone become newsworthy, you get newspaper sources jostling for room with all the other sources. Personally, I'd ban all newspaper sources in BLPs. Another BLP I tried was here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_W._Moore Admittedly, one of the sources there is a book review (less than ideal, and now a dead link, unsurprisingly). I was going to include the Basil John Mason article as another one where I tidied it up or one where an article can be written using reliable non-newspaper sources, but if you go and look at the article, you will notice a slight problem with using this one as an example... (I left the sources on the talk page and left the job half-done). But those are all examples of building biographies piecemeal. But hopefully those were done in a responsible manner. I won't say newspaper sources were avoided, but merely that newpapers didn't cover these people. Carcharoth On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Scott MacDonald <[email protected]> wrote: > Good grief, Carcharoth, there it is!!!!! Brilliant! > > I've been stumbling about for years looking for a way to differentiate > between legitimate encyclopaedic biography, which Wikipedia should do, and > the problematic, armature-journalistic, selectively biased, originally > researched, WP:NOTNEWS skirting, stuff that causes all the problems. If we > could just agree on that definition you've given all would be well. > > No chance of that happening, unfortunately. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carcharoth > Sent: 28 March 2011 17:29 > To: English Wikipedia > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] iCorrect > >>I've argued before that the minimum standard for any biographical >>article should be a published biography of some sort, that at minimum >>includes birth year (or some details on why the birth year is not >>known). These can range from self-published on an official website, to >>short bios in conference proceedings, to an actual published >>book-length biography. What shouldn't be done is piecing together bits >>from newspaper articles and primary sources - that is what official >>and unofficial biographers do, and we shouldn't be doing it in their >>stead. > >>Carcharoth > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
