Yeah, what about the whole issue of albanians, according to the rules mother theresa was not albanian, but by birth ottoman empire or yugoslavian something. There are many more examples. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Albanians
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Fences&Windows < [email protected]> wrote: > > > "I dread to think how many megabytes of discussion are spent on discussing > nationalities." > > So why are you discussing it? > > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:56:46 +0100 > From: Carcharoth <[email protected]> > Subject: [WikiEN-l] Nationality in the lead of articles > To: English Wikipedia <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > One thing that annoys me about some Wikipedia articles is the tendency > for editors to argue over the nationality of a person in the biography > article about them. The classic example is Copernicus, which has some > justification in that there is sourced discussion of the history of an > actual dispute (though the dispute was long after Copernicus). This > kind of dispute was seen again in the John Michael Wright article that > Scott MacDonald mentioned recently. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Michael_Wright > > The wording there is fine, but it can lead to convoluted writing, such > as in the Descartes or Copernicus articles: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Descartes > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus > > "John Michael Wright (May 1617 ? July 1694)[2] was a portrait painter > in the Baroque style. Described variously as English and Scottish" > "Ren? Descartes [...] was a natural philosopher and writer who spent > most of his adult life in the Dutch Republic" > > The current solution on the Copernicus article seems to be to omit > mention altogether from the lead. > > I can't see any reason myself why Descartes can's simply be described > in the lead as French. Go into detail later, yes, but people tend to > be too sensitive about what is said in the lead and sometimes require > too much detail in order to achieve precision and accuracy. > > Another one is Robert Boyle: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Boyle > > Again, the question of whether he should be described as Irish or > British or Anglo-Irish (or whatever) is avoided in the lead. Extensive > discussions have taken place on the talk page. But this is an example > of an article where the rest of it should be improved, while > resolutely ignoring the storm going on around that one small part of > it. I dread to think how many megabytes of discussion are spent on > discussing nationalities. > > Carcharoth > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
