Everybody here who contributes runs into a brick wall from time to time and has to give up regarding some matter. The factual basis of the theory about gender you're advancing is not established; as everyone experiences the same frustrations.
I've tried to edit certain articles controlled by point of view editors, doggedly advancing good sources while they relied on biased sources and been completely defeated. All it takes is two or three independent and determined point of view pushers and you're done. It does make you want to give up, fork the project, and rant and rave. Molly Ivins would be a good model for women editors. She didn't give up; she raised hell, and made everyone laugh doing it. Fred > The Wikipedia community fosters a young male zeitgeist.This IS an > attitude > problem that causes women to drop out. I have been a long time low level > contributor and thus have had a variety of response to efforts I have > made. > Persistence has shown me that what one editor sees as "not credible" may > be > that particular editor's world view and a contributor--CANNOT, EVER- > change > the mind of most editors. So one needs to give up on that point, even if > you have gone to primary sources and have them on your table in front of > you. You have to move on. However, this resigned way of working w/in > Wikipedia is not going to be the way that many people approach it. > Rebuffed > or being called "not credible" will mean we lose many contributors. It > should not be on the contributor to understand the editor. Contributors > come from all ages and societies. There are far fewer women contributing > than men. Why? Women take the harsh rebukes with more hurt. Really. > > I am a teacher and suggest that students write for Wikipedia. Invariably > the female students have been made to feel stupid by editors and won't > go > back. The male students are more likely to keep at it. This is the > culture > that Wikipedia fosters. There are many exceptionsÂ….but generally, the > tone > could be less harsh in dealing with contributors. > > ============== > > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:35 AM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 8 September 2012 15:43, Thomas Morton <morton.tho...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > I haven't had chance to look into this; >> >> >> That statement invalidates this statement: >> >> >> > Rather than whining about him we need to see the problem; it's an >> > attitude problem HERE. >> >> >> -d. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
