If someone would say this is a good idea but against policy x, so we shouldnt do it, and that argument were taken seriously, we have a far larger problem than even the most negative reading of the Roths issue. On Sep 11, 2012 6:32 PM, "Ed Erhart" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The easiest solution would have been to ask Roth to write a blog post (or > something similar) detailing the inspiration for the book -- as far as I > know, that inspiration was not publicized until the open letter was > published. Another option would have been an interview with basically any > website. > > While I'm sure someone will chime in saying "that's against WP:RS!", it's > actually not. See WP:SELPPUB: "Self-published and questionable sources may > be used as sources of information *about themselves*, usually in articles > about themselves or their activities" (emphasis in original) > > --Ed > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Fred Bauder <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012, Charles Matthews wrote: > > >> The Roth situation was WP between a rock (celeb culture with its > > >> ohmigod > > >> you dissed X) and a hard place (academic credibility requires that, > > >> yes, > > >> you do require verifiable additions and don't accept argument from > > >> authority). It would tend to illustrate that celeb power can > > >> potentially be > > >> deployed against serious discourse. Countervailing "admin power" is > > >> always > > >> a questionable analysis. > > > > > > If someone who could reasonably be seen as speaking for Wikipedia told > > > him > > > that Wikipedia needed secondary sources for his claim, they are wrong, > > > and > > > Wikipedia failed. > > > > > > It completely misses the point to explain how Wikipedia's actual > policies > > > are > > > reasonable. The policy that Roth was told about is not reasonable; if > it > > > doesn't match Wikipedia's actual policy, he shouldn't be expected to > > > figure > > > that out. > > > > What is our actual policy? What should he have been told, and how? > > > > Fred > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WikiEN-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
