I don't like the winners in 2011. They are nice pictures, but they tell little 
about the monuments. I want institutions to use the pictures and to give 
pictures to commons. If we have something unik that will be easier to do. I am 
in the moment talking to 2 parts about cooperation in GLAM-work and want 
usefull pictures not only the nice ones. As trained in building-protection I 
see a great opertunity to have pictures documenting monuments in many countries 
and want people to think about this in 2012. 

Nina
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Den 16. jan. 2012 kl. 23:38 skrev Lodewijk <[email protected]>:

> Hi Nina,
> 
> for your local contest, you should get as creative as you like! In the 
> Netherlands we had for example a quantity classification too, and I think in 
> other countries they had different categories (i.e. Russia). Every country 
> will have different needs, and I would encourage you to suit those needs as 
> much as possible. At the same time, this kind of things probably is best 
> decided a little later in the year, but it is always good to think it over a 
> bit. 
> 
> For the international contest, we should probably set the criteria definitely 
> at a later stage - they depend on which countries are participating, what 
> classifications can be set everywhere and how much manpower we have. 
> Personally I would like to keep the international contest Simple - just 
> quality of the single picture. That is for sure something that is easy to 
> explain to everyone, and doesn't require complicated rules and jury criteria. 
> But lets see about that in May or June when we have a better picture of what 
> the contest will look like. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Lodewijk
> 
> No dia 16 de Janeiro de 2012 23:30, Nina Wikipedia <[email protected]> 
> escreveu:
> I have been thinking a lot, and it will be very useful to have sets of 
> pictures who describe monuments. When we loose something in fire etc. those 
> pictures are gold. Can we have a part of wlm this way?
> 
> Nina
> Sendt fra min iPad
> 
> Den 16. jan. 2012 kl. 22:58 skrev Lodewijk <[email protected]>:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I guess it is time for a small update! Some work has been done already, but 
>> mainly behind the screens and as a follow up of what was discussed in 
>> Amsterdam in December. You can find already some start of documentation on 
>> what Wiki Loves Monuments is/will be like on 
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Documentation
>>  (some things to be decided) and you will find an initial timeline for the 
>> international organization on 
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline 
>> (thank you Tomasz!). An advised timeline for local organizing will follow at 
>> the same page, but it might be helpful to just scroll through it and 
>> appreciate the work ahead :) 
>> 
>> If you want to get started with organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in your 
>> country, please don't hesitate to start making preperations! September 2012 
>> is closer than you think. Past experiences teach that especially getting the 
>> infrastructure on the wiki (including getting the official lists) is the 
>> most time consuming task which has to happen ahead of time. For now, please 
>> add your country to 
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 if you 
>> didn't do so yet. 
>> 
>> I am also happy to be able to say that four volunteers with a lot of 2011 
>> experience have been found to form a core coordination team for 2012 - 
>> Maarten (Multichill), Elke (Elya), Tomasz (Odder) and myself will be trying 
>> to coordinate efforts. Of course the main workload will still lay with the 
>> national teams and also internationally any help will be appreciated. We 
>> will do extra our best to create good documentation and I hope that you all 
>> will ask your questions here and on the wiki in a timely manner - that way 
>> we can avoid last minute discussions, misunderstanding and other issues. 
>> Communication is always a challange, so I hope you will help with that. 
>> 
>> Also, the board of Wikimedia Nederland has indicated to be willing to be the 
>> budget holder for WLM 2012, and be the official organizer for the 
>> international contest - you shouldn't notice a lot of that as long as things 
>> go well, but we simply need an organization to be able to sign off on things 
>> (such as a world record attempt ;-) ). If there are no major objections, 
>> I'll ask the WMNL board to make that official soon. Also, we're trying to 
>> find the best way possible to ensure there is a good communication and task 
>> management on an international level. Last year we found in the evaluation 
>> that this was a bottle neck which caused several other things to go 
>> imperfect, so we're trying to find a way to give some professional support 
>> to the international coordination - that way we can make sure holes are 
>> being filled and there is a backbone present. I hope that will help make 
>> things run more smoothly that way. 
>> 
>> I hope that 2012 will be an even greater contest - seeing all the interested 
>> countries from over the world I am both enthusiastic and a little 
>> intimidated - I hope we can set off a wonderful international event. 
>> 
>> With kind regards,
>> 
>> Lodewijk
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