On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:42 PM, Tomasz Ganicz <[email protected]> wrote:
2012/1/29 aude <[email protected]>:
On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Tomasz Ganicz <[email protected]>
wrote:
2012/1/29 Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>:
Tomasz Ganicz, 27/01/2012 23:43:
We wanted to make such a cooperation with OSM Poland - but it
failed -
mainly due to lack of commitment from Polish OSM community. I
guess -
we should rather use OSM data and make our own map service, by
adding
our slice of data. OSM people generaly like to edit OSM maps and
it is
hard to persuade them to do something extra :-)
Doesn't this produce any useful data for their maps?
Yes, of course - I might imagine that they will incorporate our data
to the OSM - they are using bots to mass-upload data if it is only
possible from legal POV, just as we are doing this for
Wikipedia :-) -
but to find OSM people ready to join another project is as hard as
persuade wikipedians to edit other non-Wikimedia projects :-)
Wikipedia geocoordinates cannot (for most part) go into OSM. OSM is
under
European / UK law, which has database rights.
Wikipedia systematically often gets coordinates from google maps
and earth,
and is considered a data collection, and not clean in terms of db
rights.
Wikipedia operates under US law and no database rights.
Geocoordinates are
facts and not copyright so we regard it okay to take coordinates
from google
I was talking about coords from Wiki Loves Monuments - which are in
case of most EU countires taken from official govermental lists of
monumens - which are usually PD as govermental documents + data
retrieved from WLM contributors; cameras and GPS receiviers.
I think data and cooperation with wikipedia might still be regarded
with some skeptism. data directly from government sources with
proper , compatible licensing could be okay but then some osm people
also frown upon data imports generally and that data imports
discourage local mapping communities to form and grow and thrive. (I
am personally okay with careful imports by local mappers, but it like
inclusionist va deletionist type debate)
What might work is a joint osm mapping / photo excursion or event
And osm data -> wikipedia is okay license-wise, even with osm's
looming switch to the open database license.
Katie
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