Maybe a very dumm follow up question from my side: would it be possible to
include the app download (at least, maybe also use?) in the piwik stats?
(it's explained here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Piwik_documentation_for_Wiki_Loves_Monuments.pdf
)

Not that I don't trust your tracking, but it would be really neat to have
all tracking for WLM sites in one place :) Makes processing easier
afterwards.

Best,
Lodewijk

2012/8/21 Philip Chang <[email protected]>

> Erik, thanks for the great feedback. Further to Jon's comments:
>
> 1) Brion, any idea if and why Cordova uses .jpeg instead of .jpg?
>
> Unique name - originally we were going to include username and date/hr/min
> (no seconds) - would that be acceptable? Derrick Coatzee commented in the
> bug Jon referenced and roughly he is saying similar things to you.
>
> I believe it is more work to assign a unique number and we are rapidly
> running out of time, with plenty of work still to do.
>
> 2) The first point about including the icon in the monument detail screen
> is a great one and possibly could be considered. The second point is
> something we should do, and a similar existing story for the map view may
> not make it, but I will create a story for this particular enhancement.
>
> 3) A story exists for this and will likely be fixed.
>
> 4) Ori is more than welcome to help! This is a good thought and we are
> trying to get just basic tracking, but if something can be done easily we
> should go for it.
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Erik - my comments are inline!
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Erik Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> [Cross-posting to WLM mailing list]
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Phil & mobile team,
>>>
>>> a few questions/comments from playing with the WLM app.
>>>
>>> 1) Filenames of uploaded files
>>>
>>> Right now files appear to follow the following pattern:
>>>
>>> [Name of monument] (taken on [timestamp in DDMMMYYYY
>>> HHhrsMMminsSSsecs]).jpeg
>>>
>>> First question: Is there a reason we're using ".jpeg" instead of the
>>> more common ".jpg" extension?
>>>
>>
>> This is a good question and I'm not sure why this is happening. It's
>> potentially a default of the Cordova library we use. Someone more informed
>> might be able to shed light on this.
>>
>>>
>>
>> Second question: What are the motivations for the full timestamp in
>>> the pattern? Is it primarily uniqueness? If so I would suggest
>>> (re-)considering other approaches to achieve uniqueness (e.g.
>>> obtaining a unique suffix like 001, 002). This pattern seems pretty
>>> verbose; I do see some files with date-stamps in the name on Commons
>>> (and it's encouraged per
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:File_naming ), but very few
>>> that have the full timestamp.
>>>
>>
>> This is primarily about trying to get a good balance between uniqueness
>> and being human readable.  There was a confusing ticket about this -
>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38285 which I closed
>> today due to the fact it wasn't actionable - I welcome (
>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38285#c8) suggestions on
>> how we could improve the names.
>>
>>
>>> * The red place-marks vs. gray place-marks iconography - are we
>>> explaining this anywhere in the UI? I was ultimately able to infer it,
>>> but it might be nice to have this explained e.g. by having the icon
>>> repeated in the detail view with a "Existing image" or "Photograph
>>> needed" label.
>>>
>>>
>> Yes I agree we could reinforce this better...
>>
>>
>>> * In list view, the gray boxes are gradually replaced with photographs
>>> where they exist. Ultimately I end up with some remaining gray boxes,
>>> which I can infer are cases where a photo is missing. But it seems
>>> like we want to have a different icon in list view for "We don't have
>>> a photo at all" vs. "We're still checking whether we have a photo".
>>> Perhaps a spinner while it's checking?
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38936 :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>> 3) Small UX confusion
>>>
>>> * I have been repeatedly confused by the proximity of the "Back" arrow
>>> to the "Map view / List view" selector. They look like they're a
>>> single widget. I would suggest moving the "Map view" vs. "List view"
>>> indicator to the right, detaching it from the "Back" arrow.
>>>
>>>
>> We've had similar comments from Matthew Roth  so agree this should be
>> thought about.
>>
>>
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