Hi Abbad,

in a perfect world, the definition would indeed be a bit broader. However,
experience tells that quite a number of Asian countries seem to focus their
government definition on archaeology - so that is often the first thing
that gets protected and has official lists. In any case it would be a good
list to start with, and you can always see what other lists you can find to
add to that if necessary.

I look forward to movement on this! Sounds like a very interesting group of
people, and I'm glad you're joining!

Lodewijk


2013/5/31 Abbad Diraneyya <[email protected]>

> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> Thank you for your concern and efforts. Actually, the answer is no, I
> didn't encounter that website. However, according to the definition of a
> monument given by Wikipedia, it shouldn't include only archaeological
> sites, but also another variety of buildings and and structures with a
> particular historical or national importance. For publishing the list, I
> think they would be extremely collaborative just if we talk them about the
> contest, and how important it is to have Jordan represented in it :)
>
> The editors who have confirmed participation so far are five (including
> me), and the number could possibly rise up to eight. It may worth noting
> that half of those have been editing Wikipedia for over three years, and
> are current/previous admins with a very good wiki experience.
>
> The language used will be definitely Arabic, which is the sole official
> language of Jordan.
>
> Thank you,
> Abbad.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:48:21 +0200
> To: [email protected]
>
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
>
> Hi Abbad,
>
> did you already encounter this page on the website of the Department of
> Antiquities?
>
> http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5049&MlID=8
>
> Every governorate seems to contain a small list of archaeological sites in
> that region. Also, some data might be collected via
> http://www.getty.edu/conservation/our_projects/field_projects/jordan/jordan_component3.html
>  .
>
> The Law of Antiquities (
> http://itp-jo.com/daj/En/inside.php?src=sublinks&SlID=5017&MlID=5 )
> suggests that the term "Antique Sites"  is what you are looking for. All
> these should have been announced in the Official Gazette, and therefore
> matter of public record. The General Department of Antiquities should have
> a register, as per art.3.3 , so I would naively suggest to call them and
> ask if they published it already somewhere, and if they can email it to
> you. As they are together with the Tourism department nowadays, they might
> be motivated by the argument that it is good for Tourism to have more
> information on Wikipedia :)
>
> Out of curiosity, how many volunteers are involved at this point? What
> would be the language project that you would be using as your basis? (i.e.
> arwiki, enwiki?)
>
> Please let us know if there is any way we can practically help.
>
> Best regards,
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2013/5/30 Abbad Diraneyya <[email protected]>
>
> Of course, Santi. Petra will have a very special part, it is our mascot ;)
>
> Abbad.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:28:59 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
>
>
> Great, and welcome. Are you ready for millions of pictures of Petra? :D
>
> Santi (Millars)
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:13:36 +0300
> Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM in Jordan
>
> Hi all. We will be joining Wiki loves monuments in Jordan this year for
> the first time. We have made a small team of local Wikipedians who are
> interested in organization, and we plan to collaborate with a number of
> local photography groups and societies. There is no monuments list yet, as
> there is no governmental interest/concern in releasing such things to
> public, but I  hope we will be able to get one from the ministry of
> culture. The website is yet to be created :)
>
> Hope everybody a good luck, of course, including us!
>
> Thank you,
> Abbad.
>
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