Well England, Scotland, and Wales are all countries within the United
Kingdom (also a country). It's a bit complicated.

Four campaigns is the way to go as the IDs are different for each country.


Richard


On 8 August 2013 17:16, Jane Darnell <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with both of you - it would be nice to have one campaign per
> country, but technical restrictions limit us to at least one campaign
> per list-holder, where the list-holder is the one issuing the unique
> id.
>
> 2013/8/8, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]>:
> > Hello Platonides,
> >
> > I follow the system that Maarten started in the previous years: if there
> are
> > different organisations, different campaigns are used. The UK is similar
> to
> > Belgium. Belgium has three independent organisations, one for each of the
> > regions, that are responsible for the monument lists. For each
> > region/organisation we have a upload campaign. This is not without
> reason.
> > If users follow the pre-filled links to the upload campaigns it will not
> be
> > a problem, but if users visit a national campaign via other ways it is
> too
> > difficult for them to select the right region (certainly not unintuitive
> but
> > unnecessary complexity). The way how it in Belgium is set up is
> successful
> > for two years already. Also we would like to be able to create easy
> links to
> > the individual websites of the regional organisations.
> >
> > Already the UK website has to link to 4 groups of lists and four
> > organisations, it is not strange to have four upload campaigns as well.
> In
> > Belgium people appear to be smart enough to find the right one, I really
> > trust the UK people are smart enough too. This is not complexity, this is
> > easy.
> >
> > Besides some details the campaigns for the UK just came ready for
> testing,
> > only minor changes are needed.
> >
> > Romaine
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 8/8/13, Platonides <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Help needed please to set up
> > UploadCampaigns in the UK
> >  To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition"
> > <[email protected]>
> >  Cc: "Romaine Wiki" <[email protected]>, "WLM 2013 UK mailing list"
> > <[email protected]>
> >  Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013, 3:44 PM
> >
> >  On 07/08/13 18:15, Romaine Wiki
> >  wrote:
> >  > PS:
> >  > I read on your website that there are four
> >  organisations that each have their own lists. I think this
> >  will result in creating four campaigns instead of one.
> >  >
> >  > Scotland seems to have monument IDs:
> >  >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Category_A_listed_buildings_in_Aberdeen
> >  >
> >  > For the other areas in the UK I can't find lists with
> >  unique identifiers. Another question, is the Isle of Man
> >  also part of the UK competition?
> >  >
> >  > I think it would be good to have an online meeting with
> >  Skype or something to talk about the things that are needed.
> >  I will not be in Hong Kong, and I am available on most of
> >  the coming days. I think it is urgent to speak with each
> >  other.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Romaine
> >
> >  I would prefer where possible to see a single campaign per
> >  country. The identifiers can be made unique by prefixing
> >  with the list instead. So it could be eg. “identifier
> >  Cadw-11210” instead of “identifier 11210 on Cadw upload
> >  campaign”
> >  There could be four campaigns, with all of them placing the
> >  same template (differenciating with a parameter, that'd
> >  still be much better than four different templates), but
> >  someone with photos from different lists would need to exit
> >  one campaign to change into another, instead of being able
> >  to upload them all from the same screen, which is
> >  unintuitive (plus a complexity when giving out
> >  instructions).
> >
> >  Regards
> >
> >
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