Hi,

some in-line responses.


2014-07-14 11:17 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki <[email protected]>:

> Hi All,
>
> It is less than two months from September where we will open upload
> for participants.  There are still ambiguities about the fate of the
> international team and the tasks that the team used to work on.  We
> need to make a decision on this and move on quickly.  It is difficult
> to do a press release or talk to a new partner if we are uncertain
> about our own internal process.
>
> I believe that having an international team and international prizes
> can add a lot of value to the competition.  The costs/resources may be
> drawn/collected from the participating national competitions. However,
> after two weeks with no response to the proposal, I now assume that no
> one else is interested in pursuing the idea.
>
> Here are five areas that we have to think about...
>
> 1. The international website: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org and
> the sub-domains xx.wikilovesmonuments.org
> Who is in charge of this?  What will we do about it?  Last year, we
> advertised the URL th.wikilovesmonuments.org for participants to
> access our site.  I suspect that we can't do it anymore.  On top of
> that if the information is outdated, it would confuse participants
> when we launch our campaign.  Many people just google WLM and click on
> the first page that shows up.
>
> > Sun Jun 29 22:16:28 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote
> > This has the implication that I will alter the website sometime soon to
> > reflect this intention. I will remove the links to the national
> > competitions from the sidebar to avoid outdated information. I will link
> to
> > the commons page for more information about national competitions that
> may
> > or may not happen in 2014.
>
> 2. Common info page:
>  * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014
>  *
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/International_Team
>     Still recruiting for the team?
>  *
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Participating_countries
>     The number of participating countries is 22.  The map hasn't been
> updated for a while.
>
> 3. General coordination on critical tools:
>   * Central notice
>   * Upload wizard
> We wish that both of them are working the same way as last year.
>
> > Mon Jun 30 05:57:38 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote
> > Romaine is mostly making sure everybody has access to the
> > upload forms and centralnotice - which is of critical importance too.
>
> 4. Marketing pitch/target group:
>   * We use to lean on the popularity of the world record and the total
> sum of international prizes.  Can we still point out to the fact that
> WLM has attained the world record in 2012?
>

I think using that as a marketing tool would be misleading - there is no
way that 2014 attempts will break the 2013 record (which still needs to be
recognized btw). But technically, you could refer to it. I would strongly
urge not to emphasize it too prominently though, as it will be mostly
disappointing afterwards and thus damaging for future attempts.


>   * Can we still use the WLM logo in certificates, trophies and other
> materials as usual?
>

Sure.


>   * Do we need to produce a bilingual website for a national
> competition?  Do we have to participate in non-core activities like
> the central survey after the competition?
>

The survey will be a requirement for most grant-funded contests anyway - if
one country sets it up, it is only a little extra effort (some translating
and coordinating) to enable it for all countries. But you may need some
international coordination here - especially with respect to timing.


>   * Assuming we have no international prizes this year but we have it
> next year, should we include finalists from this year into
> consideration of the next year prizes?
>

No, it is impossible to promise even that there will be an international
competition next year (although much more likely). But also, if you include
even a single contribution of 2014 in the 2015 competition, any chance to
break the world record will become zero. It is a hard requirement that the
whole competition has to happen within a scope of three months - even if
every country only uses one.


>
> 5. Central contact point:
>   * We seem to have this mailing list as the only channel for all
> communication.  Is this correct?
>
> Best,
> Taweethaă‚‚
>
> On 30 June 2014 19:44,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I understand that Lodewijk has his expectation for the international
> > team.  People from the previous years have set the standard to be very
> > high.
> >
> > Having said that we need to focus on the present.  Many countries are
> > organizing WLM.  What value can we add to their competition if we have
> > an international team?  What will be the cost associated with the
> > activities?
> >
> > My opinion is that the minimal core tasks are:
> >
> > 1. Find an acceptable judging methods (including juries) to rank the
> > first 10 photos out of [number of countries] x 10. Make sure that
> > participating countries abide by the judging rules.
> >
> > 2. Procure and distribute awards.
> >
> > 3. (Not compulsory) Do some PR for WLM at the international level.
> > Collect statistics.  Help countries that may have technical/financial
> > difficulty.
> >
> > I believe that it is doable by the countries participate in WLM 2014.
> > You may ask for volunteers, you may ask for one representative from
> > each country or you organize an election if too many people want to
> > involve.  But this has to be done now and conclude quickly...
> >
> > What do you guys think?
> >
> > Taweetham
>
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