In a way, it is great that so many people are working with dedication at a jury tool!
Could you please update https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Tools#Jury_Tool and add your name if you run (or plan to run) a working jury tool this year? How can people use it? Thanks! Lodewijk On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Ilario Valdelli <[email protected]> wrote: > A comment that may be useful. > > I think that everyone has a need and a jury tool can fit some needs more > than another... so the jury tool may be more than one. > > The approaches are two: > > a) someone select the "official jury tool" but the community can be a lot > unstaisfied > b) the jury tool is something personal like a tool developed in Toolserver > and he/she promotes his/her own tool and the community has several options > > Personally I like the option b because it's really hard that a tool can > fit the needs of all countries. > > The IEG may support one or two Jury tools, what is important is to clarify > why the IEG must finance them. > > So, instead of killing the jury tool of the competitor, using the vision > to have only one but poorly developed cause the long fight, I suggest to > look for financial support, to propose several tools and to have the > community choosing the most appropriated. > > This is how the information technology should work: the user is the main > objective of the information technology, to be selected by the users > select, this is the best result. > > regards > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Ynhockey <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't really want to make people hate me here, and mean absolutely no >> offense to you personally, but for now I don't see the need for this grant >> at all. Here are the reasons: >> >> 1) The tool works, but even if it didn't, we have the older tool which I >> developed (aside from bugs, most of which have been fixed, I received no >> complaints about it, and it was used successfully by national teams as well >> as the international team). At the same time, Ilya just said he was >> developing his own tool. >> 2) Even if we needed three tools, the other two are being developed for >> free by volunteers. Our movement has a thing against paying someone for >> something that others are willingly doing for free/ >> 3) You seem to be a great developer, and we have a bunch of tools that do >> need to be written / maintained! If you could delve into those, I would >> definitely support your grant. For instance, a simple statistical tool for >> how much each monument was photographed, etc. Platonides, Emilio and others >> developed such tools, but they are not always maintained, and these >> developers are not currently part of the international team (if you guys >> are reading this, we want you back :) ). >> >> —Yan (User:Ynhockey). >> >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ilya Korniyko <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, I'm the developer (putting it clear) of another jury tool >>> (surprize!) and made some critical comments >>> >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Modernize_the_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_Jury_Tool >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ilya >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 4:50 AM, David Narvaez < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> (CCing some jury tool users outside of the WLM realm) >>>> >>>> I am drafting an IEG to get funding to work on the jury tool in the >>>> next couple of months: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Modernize_the_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_Jury_Tool >>>> >>>> I would appreciate if past/present/future users of the tool could >>>> review the grant and give some feedback and/or endorse it. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> David E. Narvaez >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > > > -- > Ilario Valdelli > Wikimedia CH > Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens > Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre > Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera > Switzerland - 8008 Zürich > Wikipedia: Ilario <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario> > Skype: valdelli > Facebook: Ilario Valdelli <https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli> > Twitter: Ilario Valdelli <https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli> > Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli > <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469> > Tel: +41764821371 > http://www.wikimedia.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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