Magnus, Wonderful set of links, thanks! And of course Mix-n-Match is a great idea - maybe the whole monuments database can go in there? The ecosystem is not well documented (or at least no where central I think). My gut feeling is that Listeria should be used to generate the lists on WIkipedia, though this should maybe be a two-step process (see the previous discussion about sorting issues and units and so forth). I agree with the generic bit, as I see lots of overlap with something like "Wiki Loves Art" for example.
As for the Commons-scanning bot that looks at recent WLM uploads, my feeling on that one is that we need to catch those with the current upload-campaign tooling somehow. All of that was built prior to the birth of Wikidata as well. Jane On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Magnus Manske <magnusman...@googlemail.com > wrote: > Hi all, > > I just subscribed to this list, after it was mentioned to me. I'd like to > give a brief overview of what I can offer in terms of WLM and Wikidata. I > skimmed the July mailing list archive about Wikidata, but please forgive me > if I repeat something already said. > > Last year, I wrote the official WLM tool for the UK. As part of that > exercise, I also created Wikidata items for all grade I and II* monuments > in the UK on Wikidata. > > As a "side effect", I also created a tool to browse any monument with an > ID number on Wikidata: > https://tools.wmflabs.org/wlmuk/index_wd.html > > I do not consider this "production grade" at the moment, but it could be > seen as a prototype. And while it currently requires a country-specific > property (or multiple), it could be extended to also use anything with > P1435 ("heritage status") within a country. That would abolish the need for > unique, stable IDs, though it will make management of these objects a > little harder of Wikidata. > > > As for syncing with Wikipedia(s), I can offer a list-generating and > -updating bot already in in production on English Wikipedia and Wikidata, > as described here: > http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=301 > > This could be used as an automated to-do-list (e.g. a list of all > monuments in Lower Saxony without an image on Wikidata), or a total > overview of these items (with image where available). This will require an > image to be set in the Wikidata item, and it will only show one image, so > it might not be suited as a show-the-latest-image-of-X, and it will not > search Commons on its own. > > > For synchronizing a list of monuments with Wikidata, I can offer my trusty > mix'n'match tool: > https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/ > > I can upload any list that consists of names and IDs (which can be fake), > optionally a brief description and a URL (pointing to an external catalog). > The tool offers various ways to match entries to existing Wikidata items, > or declare entries as "not on Wikidata yet", so they can be batch-created. > > > To find existing images for monuments, I can offer WD-FIST: > https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/wdfist/index.html > > For a set of items, it can scan Wikipedia (and other projects) for images, > and present them for one-click addition to Wikidata. It can even do Commons > free text search, though there tend to be quite a few false positives. At > the very least, this could be a "from home" activity for WLM enthusiasts. > > > A missing piece in this "ecosystem" appears to be a Commons-scanning bot > that looks at recent WLM uploads, and recognizes IDs of monuments, or maybe > just names, and generates a list of suggested matches between Commons and > Wikidata (and, optionally, Wikipedia). Such a bot could surely be arranged, > given detailed enough specifications. > > > While I can not promise to devote as much time as last year on this, I'll > help where I can. One point I would like to emphasize is that, whatever we > come up with, I would like it to be generic enough to work for all, or at > least most, sets of monuments, or even beyond that; every set of items with > coordinates and/or "in admin unit" property should work out-of-the-box, and > some parts (e.g. WD-FIST, Listeria) already work fine for biographies, > taxons, etc. > > > Cheers, > Magnus > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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