Hi Bodhisattwa,

Thanks for the suggestion! So basically, we will only know for certain
which countries are participating this year, on 1 Sep? It is no problem for
us to do this, but due to the nature of workflow associated with a release,
we need to know when we can "activate" them.

Best regards,
Josephine


On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 20:26, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Josephine,
>
>
>> Adding https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Module:WL_data might be
>>>> possible, however that seems extremely out of date? There are more than
>>>> triple the number of countries in it, compared to the
>>>> Participating_countries list.
>>>
>>>
> Maybe you can store every country code from this module and when
> competition comes, you can just activate only those countries, which are
> participating and let others remain in the background. At least then you
> don't have to change country codes each year.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 14:42, Josephine Lim <josephineli...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Philip,
>>
>> I don't think that this version of the app will be set as the official
>> upload link anywhere. It will just be a matter of national organizers
>> suggesting it as a mobile alternative to their community (or otherwise not).
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Josephine
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 18:17, Philip Kopetzky <philip.kopet...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Josephine,
>>>
>>> that's ok - I think it is helpful for many countries where this
>>> infrastructure doesn't exist yet :-)
>>> Is there a way to opt out of this upload link being used for
>>> participating countries in WLM?
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Philip
>>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 09:37, Josephine Lim <josephineli...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for the help! So from what I can gather, the most
>>>> up-to-date list of participating countries is
>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2021/Participating_countries
>>>> (and eventually someone will edit the WLM 2021 template to reflect that
>>>> list), however it is not machine readable. If there are so few countries,
>>>> it is actually not a problem for us to just create our own machine-readable
>>>> list based on that. Is there a deadline for countries adding themselves to
>>>> that list?
>>>>
>>>> @Lodewijk: Adding https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Module:WL_data
>>>> might be possible, however that seems extremely out of date? There are more
>>>> than triple the number of countries in it, compared to the
>>>> Participating_countries list.
>>>>
>>>> @Philip: I understand and I apologize. Unfortunately we are simply not
>>>> capable of implementing country-specific templates this year with our
>>>> resource constraints, as we are very close to the start of WLM now and
>>>> honestly we have already gone far past the number of hours budgeted for
>>>> this. It is only now that I understand how truly country-specific almost
>>>> every aspect of the implementation is, and if I could do it over, I would
>>>> have requested at least double the resources for this specifically. This
>>>> will all be documented and noted for future iterations of the app, but for
>>>> this year I'm afraid it is not possible.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Josephine
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 05:55, Željko Blaće <zbl...@mi2.hr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it still impossble for organizers to approve regional /
>>>>> non-national competitions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Z
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 12, 2021, effe iets anders <
>>>>> effeietsand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As background: Josephine is working on the commons app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josephine, what you're looking for is something machine readable. The
>>>>>> template could work, but an easier way for you may be to somehow get to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> content of this page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Module:WL_data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is also more sustainable for future campaigns. It may be
>>>>>> occasionally a bit out of date, but generally is correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:28 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
>>>>>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Josephine,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The list of participating countries can be found here -
>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2021/Participating_countries
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The template (
>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2021)
>>>>>>> is not also updated according the list mentioned above. Looks like, it 
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> just a copy of previous year's competition and needs update. Australia 
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> still not willing to participate in the competition this year, so maybe 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> will not end up in this template.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Bodhisattwa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 20:28, Philip Kopetzky <
>>>>>>> philip.kopet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Josephine,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this depends on the values defined in the template itself:
>>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2021&action=edit
>>>>>>>> - Australia doesn't exist (yet), but IE does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I must say though that this kind of upload circumvents the
>>>>>>>> categorisation work and assigning the correct heritage ID that is 
>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>> done in quite a few countries. Wikidata-Items with a linked commons
>>>>>>>> category are easy, but the majority of objects will not have its own
>>>>>>>> category and just dumping them in a WLM category puts the workload on 
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> people. There are countries where the template accepts the 
>>>>>>>> Wikidata-ID, but
>>>>>>>> ideally the upload link would use the country's wlm capaign and assign 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> heritage ID as a parameter.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BR,
>>>>>>>> Philip
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 16:32, Josephine Lim <
>>>>>>>> josephineli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just a quick question about the WLM 2021 template that we are
>>>>>>>>> trying to add to WLM uploads made via the Commons app. We currently
>>>>>>>>> retrieve the country that a monument is in, then convert it to the
>>>>>>>>> two-letter country code and insert it into the template.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However we are still getting errors; as shown at
>>>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Newstead_Gasworks_4.jpg ,
>>>>>>>>> I have uploaded a test image with the template {{Wiki Loves Monuments 
>>>>>>>>> 2021
>>>>>>>>> |1= au}} but the page says "English: No or incorrect country code 
>>>>>>>>> indicated
>>>>>>>>> in the {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2021}} template". I have experimented 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> various other country codes listed at
>>>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_country_logos
>>>>>>>>> ; interestingly some like "al" or "ad" do not work, but "ie" does.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TLDR: Does the template only accept some countries and not others,
>>>>>>>>> perhaps only countries participating in WLM 2021? Is it possible for 
>>>>>>>>> us to
>>>>>>>>> get a machine-readable list of these countries?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Josephine
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