Hi everyone, Thank you so much for chiming in, it is great to hear your advice on the topic and we will certainly discuss all your points during the evaluation! I will keep you posted on the outcome. @Lodewijk: I did mean inhabitants, thanks!
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Kijk voor meer informatie in onze agenda <https://www.wikimedia.nl/pagina/agenda>.* Op do 1 dec. 2022 om 16:24 schreef Ferdinando Traversa < [email protected]>: > I think that limiting the participation to a WLM contest only to > inhabitants of a certain place (or citizens of a certain state) would > contrast with our Universal Code of Conduct and more in general with our > policy to allow contributions from everybody without even asking who they > are and where they come from. > > As Lodewijk said, I'd rather seek different ways to engage more people > who live in Suriname. > > For example, in Apulia (region of Italy) we found a local community of > photographers which became our partner for the local edition of Wiki Loves > Monuments. We organise activities (photo walks, exhibitions and > gatherings/meetings) and try to involve potentially interested public. > > Ferdinando > (User:Ferdi2005) > > On Thu, Dec 01, 2022 at 16:00:23, effe iets anders < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Procedurally, 'top ten photographers' seems harder to execute than 'top >> ten photos with only one photo per photographer' (comparing someone's >> entire set of submissions is just.. hard). But that is more a matter of >> execution than a value statement. >> >> As for restricting who can participate: This is definitely up to the >> national team, and I know some countries have done so in the past. I would >> be cautious with the word 'native' of course, but that's mostly a matter of >> phrasing and political sensitivity. I suspect you mean 'inhabitants'. >> >> If you restrict yourself to inhabitants, you should consider how many >> high quality images that would leave you with. If tourists are your main >> source of high quality images, would banning them from the competition help >> or hurt your goals? What are your goals exactly anyway? Are there other >> ways to achieve them? (think about special awards etc) >> But also consider: how will you enforce it? How will you verify that >> someone is an 'inhabitant' and what is your definition? For example, >> someone who spends 3 months per year in Suriname, would they be allowed to >> participate? And 6 months? 9 months? How would someone have to prove that >> they meet that definition? >> >> In general, I always caution for rules that are negative in their nature: >> they have a tendency to mostly push people away, rather than encourage new >> participation from the group you feel you want more participation from. At >> least in the short term. It might be worth thinking about what positive >> measures you can think about towards that goal, how you could encourage and >> facilitate participation from people who currently live in Suriname. >> >> Just my two cents :) This is definitely not a new conversation, and it's >> great to see people chime in with their experiences! >> >> Lodewijk >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 3:40 PM Rebecca O'Neill <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Having taken advice on this, from next year Ireland is going to award >>> prizes to the top ten photographers rather than the top ten images. Though >>> only allowing one image from each person in the top 10 is an interesting >>> approach as well. >>> >>> We have had non-Irish winners in the past, from the United States, >>> Germany, and Israel and decided to award them anyway. >>> >>> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 14:28, Nicolas VIGNERON < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> As far as I remember, each country can choose its own rule (within >>>> reason obviously). >>>> For instance, to answer Mārtiņš point, in most countries, one person >>>> can only be once in the Top 10 but some countries choose to keep the top 10 >>>> as it is (multiple photos by the same user or not). >>>> >>>> I don't see why a country couldn't exclude non-native if it make sense >>>> locally, I'm more curious about how you determine if someone is native or >>>> not. >>>> >>>> Cdlt, >>>> Nicolas >>>> >>>> Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 15:13, Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <[email protected]> a >>>> écrit : >>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> We had a similar problem with (2) in a small country (Latvia). A good >>>>> solution was to set a limit of max 3 images per person in the Top 10. If >>>>> anyone gets more, these are discarded in favour of the next images in >>>>> ranking. >>>>> >>>>> Mārtiņš >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ceturtd., 2022. g. 1. dec., plkst. 15:56 — lietotājs Michelle van >>>>> Lanschot (<[email protected]>) rakstīja: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear everyone, >>>>>> >>>>>> The WLM Suriname team will soon be evaluating this years competition, >>>>>> and we have two questions we would like to ask your advice on: >>>>>> 1. The winner of this year's competition was not from Suriname, but >>>>>> from the Netherlands. This has caused some criticism from the local >>>>>> community. Is it possible to only accept contributions by natives of >>>>>> Suriname? >>>>>> 2. This year's top ten has 7 pictures from the same uploader. How >>>>>> would we go about avoiding this next year? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michelle van Lanschot >>>>>> >>>>>> Projectleider >>>>>> >>>>>> (ma, di, wo, do) >>>>>> >>>>>> *Post- en bezoekadres:* >>>>>> Wikimedia Nederland >>>>>> Mariaplaats 3 >>>>>> 3511 LH Utrecht >>>>>> tel. (+31) (0)30 3200238 <(+31)%2030%203200238> >>>>>> mob. (+31) (0)6 42154479 >>>>>> www.wikimedia.nl >>>>>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/WikimediaNL>, Twitter >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/wmnl> en Linkedin >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wikimedia-nederland/> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Overtuigd van het belang van vrije kennis? * >>>>>> *Steun Wikimedia Nederland! >>>>>> <https://www.wikimedia.nl/pagina/steun-ons>* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Wikimedia Nederland organiseert regelmatig bijeenkomsten, u bent >>>>>> daarbij van harte welkom. 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