Hi!

I have a question:)


I'd like to create an additional round of photo ratings within one WLM
subcategory in Montage.


Background: we have created subcategorie within the contest (photos from
one area of Poland, here is a link to the category:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2023_in_Silesian_Voivodeship
) and we have a separate jury for this category. I'd like to set up a
Montage for them so that they can pre-select them first and then select the
winning photos.



Ciell is probably a question for you... Can I set them up an additional
round as part of the main Montage for WLM, or is it better (or necessary)
to set up a new campaign dedicated to this subcategory?



I'd appreciate your help!

wt., 17 paź 2023 o 19:11 Jacek Broda <[email protected]> napisał(a):

> To replace jury member I simply click edit and delete one and add another?
>
> wt., 17 paź 2023 o 19:10 Mahmoud Hashemi <[email protected]> napisał(a):
>
>> Adding jury members should work similarly well, as long as the total
>> number of jurors goes up. Incomplete tasks will be distributed among the
>> jury to create equal remaining workload on all members.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 12:59 PM Ciell Wikipedia <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can easily *replace* a jury member in a running round.
>>> Bluntly deleting a member is more difficult: when the round was
>>> activated the tasks were distributed among 11 jury members, so Montage will
>>> reassign these when there are only 10 members left.
>>> All tasks have to be completed before you can move on to the next round.
>>>
>>> So technically it is possible, but replacing the jury member has
>>> preference.
>>> The 'how' is described on the Commons:Montage page, I think I called it
>>> 'Help! My jury member is not responding!'. 😉
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Ciell
>>> (Still on the road)
>>>
>>>
>>> Op di 17 okt. 2023 18:41 schreef Jacek Broda <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> Ok... Another question :)
>>>>
>>>> Can I add jury to voting after the round started? Or it's be problem
>>>> like i had before?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> wt., 17 paź 2023 o 14:11 Jacek Broda <[email protected]>
>>>> napisał(a):
>>>>
>>>>> Dennis,
>>>>>
>>>>> this is exactly what we are doing now :) We have 2 rounds of
>>>>> volunteers to take out all bad and inconsistent with the regulations photo
>>>>> and then endgame jury (we have 5 of theme) can judge from pictures that
>>>>> make sense in contest :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and good luck to everyone of us! ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Jacek
>>>>>
>>>>> wt., 17 paź 2023 o 14:04 Dennis Tobar <[email protected]>
>>>>> napisał(a):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jum...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  In my past experience, we have a previous round to discard bad
>>>>>> photos (ie, wrong focused or out of scope or just a selfie). We discard
>>>>>> (volunteer team) a lot of photos before jury review the photos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't judge of the photo is good or not, just if it's on the scope
>>>>>> of the contest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck to polish jury 😃
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El mar., 17 de octubre de 2023 12:52, Jacek Broda <
>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok. I deleted 1 Round in previous campaign - I don't want to put
>>>>>>> jury in confusion about it :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they don't see it now it can be like this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacek
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wt., 17 paź 2023 o 13:39 Ciell Wikipedia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> napisał(a):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you don't need the previous campaign anymore, I can archive it
>>>>>>>> for you meaning it will become invisible for both you and the jury 
>>>>>>>> members.
>>>>>>>> I am not at my laptop anymore but will do so later today. If you
>>>>>>>> want the first campaign to not be visible for the jury members now 
>>>>>>>> already,
>>>>>>>> you can delete the round 1 from the first campaign: no jury members
>>>>>>>> assigned will make it invisible for them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ciell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Op di 17 okt. 2023 13:16 schreef Jacek Broda <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ciell,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I start new round immediately :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see 2 active campaigns - is the juries will be see also 2
>>>>>>>>> campaigns? Or its just my coordinator view? And can I just close the
>>>>>>>>> previous campaign?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> Jacek
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wt., 17 paź 2023 o 13:09 Ciell Wikipedia <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> napisał(a):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jacek,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've replaced the link in the table on the Commons talkpage, your
>>>>>>>>>> new campaign is waiting for you.
>>>>>>>>>> (I'll be travelling in the next few days, so my response time
>>>>>>>>>> might be a bit slower than usual for troubleshooting issues.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Ciell
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Op di 17 okt 2023 om 13:00 schreef Jacek Broda <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> HI Ciell,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That sound pretty much what happened :) But I don't delete this
>>>>>>>>>>> round but only want to correct it. It's seems that the outcome is 
>>>>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so now if I can ask you to set up a new Montage campaign
>>>>>>>>>>> that will be awesome. And I try to don't mess it up again :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacek
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wt., 17 paź 2023 o 12:50 Ciell Wikipedia <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> napisał(a):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nicolas' calculation is correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What you are mentioning often happens when you have set up your
>>>>>>>>>>>> first round round and clicked 'activate', notice a mistake in your 
>>>>>>>>>>>> round,
>>>>>>>>>>>> delete this first round and setup a new one, including the renewed
>>>>>>>>>>>> activation by which images are being pulled into Montage a second 
>>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If this is my correct analysis, there is no way for you (or me)
>>>>>>>>>>>> to solve the double activation and correct the images that are now 
>>>>>>>>>>>> loaded
>>>>>>>>>>>> double into the campaign.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only way for me to help is to setup a new Montage campaign
>>>>>>>>>>>> for you. This only takes me a few minutes, so don't worry too much 
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> it. 😉
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ciell
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Op di 17 okt. 2023 12:30 schreef Nicolas VIGNERON <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is strange a big number.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe my math is wrong but with quorum 3, 7874 photos and 11
>>>>>>>>>>>>> juries : shouldn't it be (7874*3)/11) = 2147 photos for each 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jury? (quorum
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 gives 4294, maybe there is a mistake somewhere, either in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Montage or in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my math).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 17 oct. 2023 à 11:53, Jacek Broda <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have another question... I set up first Round in Montage -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have 7874 photos and 11 juries for first round of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preselection (quorum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 3 jurors per photo) and it came out that every of juries have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  nearly 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200 photos to vote... It's a big number to proceed, so can I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decrease thous amount per juror?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pon., 16 paź 2023 o 16:21 effe iets anders <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> napisał(a):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jacek,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for doing this and having this serve as a reminder to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our colleagues: please document your juries on this page!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a more explicit example at the bottom of the page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can copy the wikicode and fill in the details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please reach out if you have any questions left.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lodewijk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 4:55 AM Jacek Broda <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a little problem with adding our national jury from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poland to Jury list (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2023/Juries).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see where I can add them, there is only an example...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anybody help me with this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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