Since Anirudh brought it up: there were far more people who applied who
*are* very dedicated long-term contributors *and* who couldn't afford the
trip *and* who we would love to bring to Wikimania (in some cases, even
people who wanted to present talks of some sort) than we could fund.
"Merit," as Austin was using the term, means a combination of all of these
factors.

Not to mention hundreds (literally) of applications from people who were not
contributors, but are simply hoping for a scholarship (and in those cases,
I'm sure you'll agree, placing people who are Wikimedians ahead of them,
based on their contributions to the project, is fair).

Come on. Show a little good faith towards Austin and Cary, both of whom have
been working really hard to get this done.

And to make scholarships better in the future, all we really need is more
money. So fundraising ideas and/or ideas for donors are welcome. The
scholarship fund does not come out of thin air.

-- phoebe


On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Anirudh Bhati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Apologies for the rushed response.
>
> I was referring to Austin's comment : "the simple fact is that we have an
> extremely limited
> budget, and we chose the people we thought were the best candidates
> based on the information available to us."
>
> I don't believe merit was or should have been an issue here.  A large
> number of us have been long-term contributors to the Wikimedia projects, and
> to put one against the other would be great injustice.  I am sure we cannot
> use an objective scale to measure performance.
>
> Instead, there should have been a clear distinction made between those who
> could have afforded it, and those who can't (I am referring to PCI, PPP and
> HDI differences)
>
> Apologies for being crude, once again.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> --Anirudh Bhati
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Anirudh Bhati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> I can't believe what you just said above.
>>
>> But I guess, I am just pissed.
>>
>> --Anirudh Bhati
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Austin Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:45 PM, José Alberto Conrado Flores
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > PS.- If a scholarship ommittee member has a little spare time, could
>>> they
>>> > mind telling us (particularly or generally) the reason that we were not
>>> > chosen? Thank you.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, with the hundreds of applications we received, we're
>>> not able to reply individually to those who didn't receive assistance.
>>>  This isn't to say that your applications weren't good, or what you
>>> weren't deserving—the simple fact is that we have an extremely limited
>>> budget, and we chose the people we thought were the best candidates
>>> based on the information available to us.
>>>
>>> If you weren't sponsored, it isn't that we looked at your application
>>> and ruled you out, but rather that we weren't able to accommodate you
>>> in our budget.  It's very, very difficult to weigh one person's value
>>> over another's, and there are a great many candidates I wish we could
>>> have helped, but that was the difficult task with which we were
>>> charged, and we did our best.
>>>
>>> Austin
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>>
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