On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Aphaia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I prefer to have a longer post-mortem phase than rushing into the next
> stage. I'm now in Singapore for transit and have given no many time to
> input feedbacks I had gotten from Wikimania attendees. Some are just
> complements, others improvement suggestions. I think one of important
> parts of city bidding is to clarify the criteria and feedback from the
> latest conference should be concerned in refining our current
> criteria.
>
> Best,
>

Well, the sooner we start, the longer it will last :-)    Are the feedbacks
you received posted anywhere?  Do people with feedback know about the
Comments page on the wikimania2008wiki?

I've also been thinking that we should have a more active collaboration
/about/ wikimania and related events, including long-term hosting for
presentations and project-ideas and workshop-results, on metawiki (and not
on a site dedicated to a specific year).

Discussions about wikimania's purpose, including annual post-mortems, might
best go there.

Until we work out where, recent discussions have been posted to the
wikimania2008 site:
   http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Post-mortem

Sharing in other languages the fact that there is a public post-mortem
discussion might be a good idea.

SJ



>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:44 PM, effe iets anders
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, to be honest I think we first should think about the general
> > time schedule. Do we want to hurry or do we first want to reconsider
> > what kind or conference we want in the coming years and build the
> > wikimanias around that idea. It means a lot whether we want a very
> > unofficial conference or whether we want a more serious conference
> > which could for instance mean more possibilities for finding sponsors
> > and having a serious media look during the conference, more results
> > with respect to the main goals we have etc etc... I do know that at
> > least the program committee needs a huge evaluation (as soon as Jakob
> > and me are home, we will do that I guess) and I assume also other
> > teams want to do that, before we would do a wikimania wide evaluation,
> > and draw results from that.
> >
> > So a few big questions ahead, which can very much influence the choice
> > of the city. Personally I'd not want to rush anything until we know
> > that.
> >
> > On the page you created, which is of course a draft, it has been
> > assumed almost that we choose the early schedule, even though it is
> > still a draft (you could also make changes there, and still call it a
> > draft, even though the main window has been set).
> >
> > I sincerely hope we can have an open discussion *first* on whether we
> > need evaluation, together with local team, committees, WMF etc, and
> > then see how long we need for that to draw conclusions etc.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Lodewijk
> >
> > 2008/7/23 Cary Bass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> >> effe iets anders wrote:
> >> | Ehm? Did you decide on the timeline now? :S
> >> |
> >> | Just for the record, is this a WMF decision, or just what we call in
> >> | Dutch a "proefballon", a little test to taste the reactions.
> >> |
> >> | as explained in my previous email, I see barely advantages and a lot
> >> | of disadvantages. I sincerely hope this time schedule will not be
> >> | close to what it will be, especially not without a little more
> >> | rationale?
> >> |
> >> | Best regards,
> >> |
> >> | Lodewijk
> >> |
> >>
> >> Perhaps you missed the page title "Draft Timeline".  Or my comment, "It
> >> *is* a wiki".  That is, I anticipate much discussion and explanation as
> >> well as consensus about the timelines.  I believe Damien Finol has
> >> already begun the talk page.
> >>
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