--- El lun 14-sep-09, Thomas Dalton <[email protected]> escribió:

> De: Thomas Dalton <[email protected]>
> Asunto: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2011
> Para: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" 
> <[email protected]>
> Fecha: lunes, 14 de septiembre de 2009, 9:18 pm
> 2009/9/15 WereSpielChequers <[email protected]>:
> > 1 Which languages have to be covered at every
> Wikimania? The de-facto
> > minimum is probably now host country plus English, but
> that might rise
> > in future.
> 
> We've only had the host language (if not English)
> represented once, I
> wouldn't say that is a de-facto minimum. It might become
> so, but it isn't yet.

I think we need to put the bilingual nature of the 2009 Wikimania in context.

First, in Argentina English is not as wide-spread as in Europe or other 
countries; Not having a English to Spanish in at least some of the 
presentations would have seriously limited the local assistance.

Secondly, being Spanish one of the most important languages in the world, and 
within Wikipedia with 20% of the total traffic[citation needed], having a 
number of Spanish speaking speakers made a lot of sense. Making them speak 
English to be then translated back to Spanish  didn't make much sense, so we 
translated them to English.

I think all in all the translations back or forth worked pretty well in 
general. 

As for the complains regarding the closing ceremony; it's true, Patricio 
Lorente gave the final thanking in Spanish, but it was actually directed to the 
local volunteers and associate organizations. I'm sorry if you felt excluded.

As for the party invitation; attendees were supposed to be aware of it as we 
informed it through several channels; Patricio was inviting all volunteers, 
associates and technical staff to join us.

Back to the topic; we can think of UN-style presentations with translations 
from and to 198 languages, but its usefulness is questionable.

For the time being, the use of translation in Wikimania will probably have to 
be studied on per-case bases, though a general consent on its usefulness 
could/should be agreed on before Gdansk. 

Cheers/Saludos/Do widzenia,
Mariano Cecowski



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