I agree..Israel = apartheid... See what they did to the humanitarian aid
boats towards the Gaza Strip...

2011/3/31 Han-Teng Liao <[email protected]>

> "2007: Taipei, Taiwan, where you can be held without trial for any
> reason, and with which most attendees' countries have no diplomatic
> relations whatsoever."
>
> Hey, your description is not fair.  In addition, individual freedom may
> have no direct relationship with diplomatic ties.  Citations you can use
> http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=546&year=2010
> http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=363&year=2010
>
> Can you guys go back to the practical matters regarding visa or entry?
>  Thank you.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Austin Hair <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:23 PM, matthew satchwell
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > This is the thing with Zionists, a questions is not answered, instead a
>> > tirade of rhetoric, except I read from your response that you do accept
>> that
>> > there is a lack of freedom in Israel. (this is a start)
>>
>> I want to start by apologizing to the other members of this list for
>> feeding this.
>>
>> You talk about a lack of freedom, Matthew, but I have to wonder about
>> your definition. I heard nothing from you when we held Wikimania in
>> the following countries:
>>
>> 2005: Frankfurt, Germany, where you can be arrested for giving a Nazi
>> salute in public or drawing a swastika.
>> 2006: Cambridge, Massachusetts, where you can be held without trial on
>> terrorism charges.
>> 2007: Taipei, Taiwan, where you can be held without trial for any
>> reason, and with which most attendees' countries have no diplomatic
>> relations whatsoever.
>> 2008: Alexandria, Egypt, which was a police state until just a few weeks
>> ago.
>>
>> Argentina and Poland are also not exactly bastions of freedom, and
>> there were visa issues with both conferences. That's not unreasonable,
>> though, since every country on the planet has visa obstacles with at
>> least one other country.
>>
>> Oh, wait, that's not true. There is one, and only one: the Maldives,
>> where you can be arrested for not being Muslim.
>>
>> Austin
>>
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