Hello, can we see each other in Haifa again? Just curious. And as others said, Palestinians have Internet access. I can assure you from my personal experiences ... After Wikimania2007 I met a group of pilgrims from Palestine. They spoke Arabic and were Eastern orthodox faithfuls. They called themselves "Isreaeli", when I asked them who they were. Unfortunately I failed the actual chance, we had promised to exchange email addresses on our pilgrimage to the summit of Mt. Sinai and they had knew Wikipedia.
Cheers, 2011/6/29 WereSpielChequers <[email protected]>: > I'm a great believer in the theory that Wikipedia participation in any > particular country is in large part a function of the Internet access > there. So countries like North Korea that blcck the Internet will be > holes in our participation, as will be countries that block Wikipedia. > Elsewhere it depends partly on the amount of free and fast access to > the Internet as opposed to slow access and people who pay per mb > rather than per month; and partly on the local speed of accessing > Wikipedia - excellent if you are connected to a part of the Internet > that has a good connection to Florida, pretty good if you are close to > the squid servers in Amsterdam, very slow in much of the global south. > > Which is a very long way of asking if anyone knows what Internet and > specifically Wikipedia access is like in Gaza and the Westbank and > whether there are any Government filters in place. There is not much > point arguing that israel would give visas to Palestinian wikimedians > if it turns out that the siege of Gaza or the wall partitioning the > West bank included Israeli restrictions on Internet access that > prevented their being Palestinian Wikimedians..... conversely if Hamas > bans Wikipedia in Gaza then it wouldn't matter whether Wikimania was > in Haifa, Mecca or Port Stanley, there still wouldn't be any > Wikimedians coming from Gaza. > > WereSpielChequers > > 2011/6/29 KIZU Naoko <[email protected]>: >> Oops I forgot to insert some words. Let me correct: >> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:24 AM, KIZU Naoko <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I don't recall any Arabic participants in Boston, in Taiwan either >>> (they decided not to show from their own reason), many in Alexandria >>> but not so many from outside of Egypt, no Palestinians but two >>> Israelis, >> in Gdansk, >> one Syrian and one Irani (our steward) ...... iirc there >>> were some Jordanian somewhere, iirc in several Wikimanias but not sure >>> in which ones. >>> >>> And from time to time, as Transcom member, I heard there were no or >>> very a little Palestinian contributors to Arabic Wikipedia. It is sad >>> we haven't successful to get them in Wikimedia universe, and there >>> will be some reasons but I presume it'll be more complicated than a >>> certain organization hinders or whatever. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:01 AM, WereSpielChequers >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I don't remember meeting any Palestinians at the last two Wikimanias >>>> either, so if there are no Palestinians coming despite the geography >>>> then that is unfortunate. But if we can honestly say that no >>>> Palestinians tried to come but were unable to get visas then I am >>>> somewhat reassured, and thanks for trying to find some. >>>> >>>> However I am worried at the attendance from the wider Islamic world, >>>> and of course attendance in general. How does this compare to previous >>>> years? >>>> >>>> WereSpielChequers >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 June 2011 20:53, Kim Bruning <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:20:11PM +0300, Harel Cain wrote: >>>>>> Rather read it as "we looked for Palestinian wikimedians all over the >>>>>> place >>>>>> for over a year; apparently they're not very easy to find". >>>>> >>>>> Ok, that's definitely a very different narrative than either BDS's claims, >>>>> or what I was hoping myself (to wit, that local people just tend to >>>>> register pretty >>>>> late, because they don't need to plan ahead as far.) >>>>> >>>>> <scratches head> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for answering my questions so far! >>>>> >>>>> sincerely, >>>>> Kim Bruning >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> [Non-pgp mail clients may show pgp-signature as attachment] >>>>> gpg (www.gnupg.org) Fingerprint for key FEF9DD72 >>>>> 5ED6 E215 73EE AD84 E03A 01C5 94AC 7B0E FEF9 DD72 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 >>> member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 >> member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > -- KIZU Naoko / 木津尚子 member of Wikimedians in Kansai / 関西ウィキメディアユーザ会 http://kansai.wikimedia.jp _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
